Comment by watwut
9 days ago
> she was clearly deliberately obstructing traffic,
You are lying. She waited for the pedestrian to cross.
Also, obstructing traffic is not valid reason to be violent against someone. ICE or cops being violent in that situation is them abusing their power big time. So, again, we are back to Brownshirts comparison.
These guys always fall back on "bbbbut Obstructing Traffic!" as if that's a capital offense.
Florida made it one.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-p...
> Gov. Ron DeSantis said that drivers will not be at fault if they hit protesters that block roadways in a clip that took social media by storm.
Please post a link to the video you viewed.
That way we can be sure that we’re discussing the same thing.
Just go watch the one that starts with a car driving past her car.
> She waited for the pedestrian to cross.
This does not in any way contradict "she was clearly deliberately obstructing traffic". There was a very long period in the video where there was clearly no obstruction to her driving down an empty street and multiple officers were repeatedly telling her to do so, and cars behind her were obstructed for no reason.
> Also, obstructing traffic is not valid reason to be violent against someone.
This is a complete strawman.
> ICE or cops being violent in that situation is them abusing their power big time.
ICE are cops. "She then is removed from the car by force and refuses to move, requiring her to be carried" is normal; if you are under arrest and you do not comply with the arrest, LEO are legally entitled to use the force required to enact the arrest. In this case, she had to be removed from the car because she tried to lock herself in the car, and she had to be carried because she refused to move along. That's just how arrests work.
To the extent that any of that can be called "violent", it is not a consequence of obstructing traffic. It is a consequence of resisting arrest.
Obstructing justice, and then refusing to comply / resisting arrest will lead to you being forcefully removed. This is in fact a valid reason.
Actually, it is not. Also, she was not obstructing justice, she was on the way to doctor stopped by armed thugs.
> Actually, it is not.
The law disagrees: https://www.justice.gov/jm/1-16000-department-justice-policy...
It's very easy to find abundant sources for this.
If you're locking yourself in your car when you're under arrest, and that car is currently blocking traffic, there is no reasonable alternative to using force to get into the vehicle and take you out. Nothing else will get you out of the vehicle, and you legally must get out of the vehicle. You can't just be left there.
If you are resisting having handcuffs put on you, or refusing to walk along as you are taken to a police vehicle, there is no reasonable alternative to using force to ensure that the handcuffs go on and you get in the vehicle. Being carried is about the gentlest thing that could possibly happen.
> she was on the way to doctor stopped by armed thugs.
This is contradicted by the fact that she repeatedly refused to take a clear path when she was being told to take a clear path and the officers were not in any way preventing her from doing so.
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It's bizarre that your comment was flagged and killed for an objectively true statement.