Comment by crazygringo

1 month ago

This is just about elementary communication skills.

You're arguing that obfuscation is somehow a good thing. How does that make any sense?

When people communicate clearly, it makes the world a better place. People understand each other more easily. They don't have to waste as much time figuring things out. It's the golden rule, treating others the way you'd like to be treated.

If you don't understand that, I genuinely don't know what to tell you.

All communication requires some context.

You're on a web site with a vague title and a bunch of random links, and zero explanation on the front page for what it's all about. Do you also complain about that?

This is not obfuscation, this is aiming at a particular audience that you aren't a part of. This web site doesn't need an introduction so that people browsing from Kazakhstan can understand what it's about, any more than a calculus lecture needs to start with basic arithmetic to cover attendees with no math background.

You're doing the internet equivalent of yelling at people to speak English when they're having a conversation in another language. It's as uncouth here as it is there.

  • > All communication requires some context.

    Right! Which is why you should give that context when you create something for public consumption. Get it now?

    > You're on a web site with a vague title and a bunch of random links, and zero explanation on the front page for what it's all about. Do you also complain about that?

    Yes actually. HN has a terrible design for new visitors. Why would I defend that? HN is known for a lot of things, but its design is not one of them.

    > You're doing the internet equivalent of yelling at people to speak English when they're having a conversation in another language. It's as uncouth here as it is there.

    No, I'm doing the internet equivalent of criticizing where someone is giving a public lecture but refuses to give it a sufficiently meaningful title so people know whether or not they want to attend it.

    This is a public website meant for public consumption. Not some private communication I'm trying to butt into.

    You seem to be trying to defend some kind of gatekeeping-through-obscurity, where new potentially interested visitors ought to be made confused and have to "work" to figure things out. Why would anyone do that intentionally, or defend that? It's just rude and thoughtless.

    • You're acting as though you're being kept out, because you expect everything you see to cater to you. You're not being kept out, you're just not being explicitly invited in.

      "...meant for public consumption." Which public? Not one which includes you! But you insist that you must be part of the group it's meant for.