Comment by PaulHoule

2 days ago

I saw a "web browser" that was AI generated in maybe 2k lines of python based on tkinter that tried to support CSS and probably was able to render some test cases but didn't at all have the shape of a real web browser.

It reminds of having AI write me an MUI component the other day that implemented the "sx" prop [1] with some code that handles all the individual properties that were used by the component in that particular application, it might have been correct, the component at all was successful and well coded... but MUI provides a styled() function and a <Box> component, either one of which could have been used to make this component handle all the properties that "sx" is supposed to handle with as little as one line of code. I asked the agent "how would I do this using the tools that MUI provides to support sx" and had a great conversation and got a complete and clear understanding about the right way to do it but on the first try it wrote something crazy overcomplicated to handle the specific case as opposed to a general-purpose solution that was radically simple. That "web browser" was all like that.

[1] you can write something like sx={width: 4} and MUI multiplies 4 by the application scale and puts on, say, a width: 20px style

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logicallee  1 day ago

Thank you for the detailed feedback, though we would prefer for you to comment on the announcement threads where you see it. We really appreciate the feedback.

You're referring to State of Utopia's[1] web browser, currently available here:

https://taonexus.com/publicfiles/jan2026/172toy-browser.py.t... (turn the volume down if you play the included easter egg mini-game as it's very loud.)

10-minute livestream demonstration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xdIMmrLMLo&t=45s

That livestream demonstration is side-by-side with Chrome, rendering very simple pages.

It compiles, renders simple web pages and is able to post.

The differences between cursor's browser and our browser:

    - Cursor's long-running autonomously coded browser: over a million lines of code and a trillion tokens, which is computationally intensive and has a high cost.
    - State of Utopia's browser: under 3000 lines of code.

    - Cursor's browser: does not compile at present.  There's no way to use it.
    - State of Utopia's browser: compiles in every version.  You can use it right away, and it includes a fun easter-egg game.

    - Cursor's browser: can't make form submissions
    - State of Utopia's browser: can make form submissions.

I'm submitting this using that browser. (I don't know if it will really post or not.)

We are taking feature requests!! Submit your requested feature here:

https://pollunit.com/polls/ahysed74t8gaktvqno100g

We are happy to put any feature you want into the web browser.

[1] will be available at https://stateofutopia.com or https://stofut.com for short (St. of Ut.)