Comment by willmarch

7 days ago

Here are several off the top of my head with sources and videos:

Peaceful protester/protest crowd attacked:

(video) https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/comments/1qcyvqt/ice_shoo...

(video) https://www.reddit.com/r/lostgeneration/comments/1qcbpac/hug...

(video) https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/1qceoy4/shards_o...

U.S. Citizen arrested/detained for having an accent:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1qdol2a/having_an_...

In a Richfield Target, video shows federal agents detaining Target employees, including one being tackled/handcuffed while saying “I’m literally a U.S. citizen,” and they were later released:

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/richfield-target-ice-...

(video) https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qauntn/ice_kidn...

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RickJWagner  7 days ago

Please pick one. Videos don’t show full context. I will try to run to the ground ( as well as I can ) one of these.

Which would you say is the one that best makes your case?

  • willmarch  7 days ago

    Okay, go for the first one where ICE shoots a pastor directly in the head from a rooftop with a pepper ball (their claimed reason was they were blocking a vehicle, but in the video the pastor is on the sidewalk and there is no vehicle in sight anywhere. Also, that is not the way that sort of weapon is supposed to be used for crowd control as it could seriously injure someone).

    • RickJWagner  7 days ago

      Thanks for that. Here’s what I’ve found for the governments response:

      - Demonstrators were throwing rocks and bottles, and shooting fireworks at ICE agents.

      - Demonstrators were blocking vehicles, impeding ICE operations.

      - The demonstrators were trespassing on federal property and were repeatedly warned before force was used.

      I have been unable to find anything claiming those are false. Let me know if you have a source that contradicts these.

      If it turns out all of those are true, does that justify the use of pepper spray to you? It does for me. I’ve shot paintballs ( not pepper spray balls ) many times and do not believe they can be reasonably aimed for a headshot. I’ll consider that a ‘lucky shot’.

      Let me know it you have proof against the government claims, or if you feel unnecessary force was used if they are all true.

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