Comment by rayiner
1 month ago
I was responding to the following assertion:
> A lot of Silicon Valley’s success is attributable to immigrants
Successful industries stick in particular geographic locations. Why is New York the epicenter of the financial industry? It’s not because it’s the best place you’d choose in 2025. It’s because the city was the country’s preeminent port and stock brokers set up a financial exchange under a Buttonwood tree on Wall Street in 1792.
Similarly, Silicon Valley’s success traces to its origins in the 1950-1980. Many leading Silicon Valley companies that are still around today were founding back then. So it’s highly relevant that America was able to build Silicon Valley in the first place during and only shortly after a highly restrictive immigration policy.
But the whole argument is disingenuous. The article is about mass immigration. Silicon Valley’s success has fuck all to do with the millions of immigrants that come in every year illegally or through family reunification. Whatever contribution you think immigration is making to Silicon Valley today can be accomplished with 1/30th of the immigration levels we had over the last few years.
> Many leading Silicon Valley companies that are still around today were founding back then.
Define “leading”, then tell me what companies are still around. I can think of two off the top of my head and one of them has an immigrant CEO.
> But the whole argument is disingenuous. The article is about mass immigration. Silicon Valley’s success has fuck all to do with the millions of immigrants that come in every year illegally or through family reunifications.
Ah, I’m done responding to you with this conflating illegal immigration with family reunification
> Define “leading”, then tell me what companies are still around. I can think of two off the top of my head and one of them has an immigrant CEO.
Intel, AMD, Apple, Cisco, and Oracle, all have above $200 billion market cap and were founded in the 1960s or 1970s.
Being CEO of an established company obviously is a much easier job than building one in the first instance.
> Ah, I’m done responding to you with this conflating illegal immigration with family reunification
They’re both immigration pathways where people aren’t filtered based on skills and credentials.