Comment by fmbb

12 hours ago

For someone who has only been exposed to open office landscapes those cubicles seem like a dream.

I haven't seen full height cubicles since my 2006-2011 job.

Still even half-height cubicle desks tended to give you a good sense of "your space" relative to the open concept rows of tables/flat desks.

Currently I go to the office once a week, where I sit at a tiny mobile desk pressed against the side of someone else's cubicle. I'm almost "in" a walkway. Can't imagine how that interferes with focus!

Personally I hated them they felt dehumanizing, and loved my first open floor company

I also don’t like WFH, I wonder if people who like open plans also like RTO

  • Power to you but I absolutely hate open offices. They’re often loud and it’s easy to get distracted by random conversations.

    I know people fantasize about these “random conversations” leading to innovations from overhearing, but that hasn’t been my experience at all; instead because it’s so distracting a lot of people would just wear headphones all day.

    I would so prefer an office. Ideally something that allows me to play music at a reasonable volume without headphones, use my mechanical keyboard, and have my own desk that I am not neighboring up against someone.

    As it stands I work from home so I actually have that, which is why I am dreading the eventual RTO. If I could get my own dedicated office at a company, I think I would have way less desire to WFH.

    • I certainly have been around for conversations leading to this or that change in direction. It happens.

      But the bigger reason it's useful is to get facetime with the decision makers and the folks adjacent to the decision makers who might think of you when opportunities arise.

  • You love noise, interruptions, and a lack of privacy?

    • I don't find open spaces noisier than cubicles but I am able to easily block out distracting sounds.

      I am interrupted, and when I am is generally somebody giving me a useful quick update or an informal greeting from an office buddy when they notice I make welcoming eye contact.

      I don't think I ever felt a lack of privacy in the office or expected it in any way? I wonder what kind of privacy I would need that the restroom doesn't cover, I'm sure there are some instances since it's been called out.

    • (you replied to wrong comment, parent instead of grandparent)

      It suits people that coffee badge and serves as a way to scan who actually came in on a "required" office day.

      Both are signs of dysfunction.

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    • I actually think cubicles’ faux privacy might encourage more noise. When I was in cubicles years ago, there were people who would take calls on speakerphone. I’ve never experienced that in an open office space, but it’s hard to know if that’s just because I’ve had more conscientious colleagues in open spaces.

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  • I like being able to work at the office because then I don't have to pay for electricity and internet, although commuting is bad for my ecological footprint.

    I will never support forcing RTO on people who prefer WFH, nor the opposite (unless dire circumstances mandate it, like a pandemic or other natural disaster).

    I can tolerate open offices, but prefer plans with private spaces which make it easier to go into and maintain full focus mode.

    I've never done pair programming, but I imagine I would like it, if me and my colleague use my computer (set up how I like it, Dvorak layout and everything) for my part of the programming and we switch to my colleague's computer when it's their turn.

Cubicles are terrible. Especially the full height ones. They have all the same noisy neighbor problems as open spaces but you’re stuck in a tiny box all day. You get a tiny modicum of privacy but not enough to make up for feeling like you’re stuck in a gray box all day.