Comment by WD-42

21 days ago

Not a dystopia for me. I’m a cyclist that’s been hit by 3 cars. I believe we will look back at the time when we allowed emotional and easily distracted meat bags behind the wheels of fast moving multiple ton kinetic weapons for what it is: barbarism.

That is not really a defensible position. Most drivers don't ever hit someone with their car. There is nothing "barbaric" about the system we have with cars. Imperfect, sure. But not barbaric.

  • > Most drivers don't ever hit someone with their car. There is nothing "barbaric" about the system we have with cars. Imperfect, sure. But not barbaric.

    Drivers are literally the biggest cause of deaths of young people. We should start applying the same safety standards we do to every other part of life.

  • >Most drivers don't ever hit someone with their car.

    Accidents Georg, who lives in a windowless car ans hits someone over 10,000 times each day, is an outlier and should not have been counted

You should spend some more time driving in the environments you cycle in. This will make you better at anticipating the situations that lead to you getting hit.

Maybe take a look at how the Netherlands solved this problem. Hint: not with "AI" drivers.

By the way, I don't bike but I walk about everywhere lately. So to hyperbolize as it's the custom on the internets, i live in constant fear not of cars, but of super holier than you eco cyclists running me over. (Yea, I'm not in NL.)

  • Why specifically be worried about cyclists in this weird and unusual mental state? Do holier than thou cyclists have more momentum or something? (I’ve never met one).

    Anyway, a fix that should work fine for both of you is to take a lane from cars and devote it to cyclists. Nobody actually wants to bike where people walk, some places just have bad infrastructure.

    • > Do holier than thou cyclists have more momentum or something?

      They think they're martyrs or something. What am I then if i take a backpack and do my shopping on foot? I'm even more eco because I didn't spend manufacturing resources on a bike, and even more of a martyr because walking is slow.

      > to take a lane from cars and devote it to cyclists. Nobody actually wants to bike where people walk

      Yep, see my NL reference :)