Comment by bfrog

21 days ago

My friend this is the comment section, surely this could be said in fewer words

Tl;Dr

The TL;DR was exhaustion and medication make me chatty. I didn’t realize how long the comment was until I got back on just now.

  • I agree that your previous comment could be shorter, maybe half as long, with some effort. For example, this sentence could just be removed without changing the content or tone:

    > But I think this is an interesting perspective difference to discuss and not a blatant ad hom argument used to ‘fight’ Rust users on the internet.

    (It is already clear that you share your perspective because you think that it's interesting and not a fallacy.)

    Then, there are some paragraphs close to the end that seem to repeat ideas.

    But IMHO it's a good, nuanced comment that both addresses shortcomings in current discourse and adds ideas to the discussion. This is obviously difficult to do in few words.

    A few concepts that come to mind from your comment, but I missed from others:

    - Are Rust-style ownership semantics complex or just hard for me? Is it an issue of familiarity only? Is it ergonomics?

    - Are they hard in general or just due to the way I like to program? How can I change my style to better fit the model?

    - Are they even fit for the software I write? i.e. is it worth it to change how I program to better fit the model?

    - What other tools are there to deal with resources?

    - What could a programming language do to offer multiple of those? How can we mix GC, region types, linear/uniqueness types, manual management, etc. in a single language?

    - A bunch of stuff about discourse in this thread and HN/the internet in general (which is maybe not the point of the comment and could be omitted?)