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Comment by HumanOstrich

9 hours ago

Looking at it through a religious lens is pretty narrow-minded. Secular people have values too. You're limiting your ability to understand the world around you.

I would reckon looking at these kinds of things through religious lenses is actually VERY useful.

I don't follow sportsball, but there are masses of population and massive institutions that are built upon for and on sportsball.

So, seeing large changes or shifts within sportsball can be useful in gleaning some sort of trend.

While, I don't fully follow the gp comment, I can see the other side of yours.

  • It's more like following astrology - entirely irrelevant to reality.

    • Your comment is entirely irrelevant to most of the human beings on this planet.

      And yet, you took the time to type it out. And will even spend some time defending it, proposing it.

      Narrow worldviews have utility to one, but don't encompass "reality" as such.

Some secular people have values, I don't think religious people are saints. Secular people however don't have a framework to 'force' others with supposed values to adhere to them. I don't believe it's narrow minded to believes changes in religion might have an effect on things, the way people follow their religion is influenced by external factors, don't see why it wouldn't be the other way around as well. Atheists are quite new we'll see what happens.

  • > Atheists are quite new

    What ever you're smoking, I'd like to try. A break from reality sounds nice right now.

    • Gallup polling says 1% of people in the US didn't believe in god in 1967, 17% in 2022. Of those 17% i'd imagine many believed at some point (or went to church/temple/...), these people don't really behave like a 'pure' atheist would. They're very much still influenced by the religious ideas they grew up in. So yes it's a rather new thing if you're thinking about society.

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