Comment by andsoitis
21 days ago
> EU people can't vote the EU presidency out of office
Selection/rejection of the European Commission president (there is no such thing as the EU president) is indirect democracy, not popular vote. But it is still representative and democratic.
US contrast: in the US, citizens also don't vote for the President directly. Instead, we use a two-step system centered on the Electoral College.
Hypocrisy: if anyone (especially us American citizens) are going to argue that europeans should get to vote directly for the President of the EU commission, then they should also argue strongly to get rid of the Electoral System in the US and let the presidential popular vote be the decisive factor.
>then they should also argue strongly to get rid of the Electoral System in the US and let the presidential popular vote be the decisive factor.
I don't think that's an unpopular idea as of 25 years ago now. With current technology, nationals should be a direct democracy (and with ranked choice votes, not FPtP), the house should be doubled (if not tripled since we stopped growing 100 years ago), and the supreme court should be expanded to at least 15.
And that's just the start of small updates we need for government.
Yep, EC rather than EU, my bad.
> Yep, EC rather than EU, my bad.
And the democracy part which you got wrong. That's the salient point.
Imho the indirection ends up removing the democratic aspect.