Comment by sitharus
18 days ago
Don't most people already have a plug in their garage? All mine certainly have. There's no need to get full EVSE for most people, a 2.4kW outlet as found almost everywhere outside North America will easily handle daily driving needs for anyone who's not in a travelling job.
Also if everyone in your neighbourhood turning on a space heater strains the grid you have bigger problems.
Utilities have plenty of ways to solve that. We already have electric water heaters on demand controlled circuits and electricity billing that incentivises off-peak use.
And as for range? 400km is plenty for all but one trip a year, if that's an issue for your use perhaps EVs are not for you.
44 million US households have no garage, including ~2/3 of renters
Sounds like a market opportunity for kerb-side, low speed, charging points.
Not to mention parking garages for daytime parking at work.
Not to mention mall parking lots.
The garage is an obvious starting point, because your car spends a lot of time there, but there are lots of opportunities elsewhere.
Once upon a time 44 million households didn't have electricity. Things change.
I have no garage and work from home. So no workplace to charge.
So now you’ve added another thing I have to worry about - finding charging somewhere along my 10 minute errand route?
EVs are a bad solution to a problem I don’t have. Hybrids are much better.
For the small amount of driving I do, driving my commuter ICE car with a tiny, 35-mpg 4 cylinder engine is fine… why are the EV cultists so convinced their way is the only way and the rest of us are living in prehistoric times?
Plus, your EV is heavier than my ICE, so your tires shed rubber particulate more quickly than my tires due to the weight, which is also an environmental pollutant (that is toxic enough to kill wildlife, btw)
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abd6951
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Hence the urgent need for charging infrastructure: Incentives to install charges in homes and rental unit garages and at curbsides.
Isn't it a lot easier just to sell people hybrids instead?
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> There's no need to get full EVSE for most people,
It's a lot more comfortable though. It's been a great addition to the home to get an EVSE, even a small single-phase one.
> Don't most people already have a plug in their garage?
Good point, most people without garages should continue buying hybrid or ICE, because EVs aren't for them yet.
I dont have a garage, but there are at least 15+ curb side chargers in 250 meters walking distance of my house. No problem charging my Tesla.
How is the pricing? IME public charges are 2-3x as expensive as charging at home.
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What about charging at work?
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Nice
When will EVs be for them?
I was being a bit facetious, but I guess when either they're fortunate to live extremely close to a charger, or they have one in building, but then it seems like they'd be fighting for parking and charging space, which doesn't seem to me to compete favorably in terms of practicality. Or the housing market finally crashes and there's a viable path out of renting for those that want to do so.
When L2 errand charging becomes enough that they can keep up with daily travel by plugging in where they go and park for a while - restaurants, movie theaters, retail stores, doctor and dentist offices, etc.
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Yes it's so easy - Just tell the butler to put it on charge when you arrive home.
>Also if everyone in your neighbourhood turning on a space heater strains the grid you have bigger problems.
Welcome to Texas.
And with Texas a 200 mile+ driving day is just more common than people from smaller places experience.
People can't possibly be driving 200 miles a day, that can't be real.
Sure it can :).
Probably not 7 days a week, but a couple days a week, sure.
And of course not everyone. Maybe 10%?
Not that it matters. What do I care about the needs of some Texans? (I mean that non perjorativly). I mean just because ranchers still need horses doesn't mean the rest of us have to use them.
The world will go EV, even much of the US will go EV, regardless of what some folks need.
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