Comment by unethical_ban

5 days ago

>There were no conflicting orders

Factually incorrect. Now then,

It got a lot of attention because it is death, because it was avoidable, because it was the responsibility of ICE to make it avoidable, and because popular tension breaks at unpredictable moments. Hers happened to be on video from a thousand different angles.

Your rhetoric waffles between support of the actions of the authorities, and you seem to drift between satire and reality. "I'm no lover of cops" while you victim blame a woman for getting killed.

>I think it's pretty clear that anyone who is out protesting and resisting the incompetent, hateful, and violent thugs of a fascist regime should absolutely, 100% expect to be killed

Given the amount of energy you are expending to defending the actions of officers in this instance, I assume you are a supporter of this administration and their actions.

> Factually incorrect

Feel free to post a video showing the conflicting orders. As best I can determine, this was just early (and very typical) misinformation. I could be wrong!

> responsibility of ICE to make it avoidable

I disagree. I don't see that LEOs have some sort of moral responsibility to make sure they aren't standing where they can be run over. People have a moral responsibility to not drive recklessly.

> "I'm no lover of cops" while you victim blame a woman for getting killed.

It is certainly an unfortunate situation, but if you can set aside your moral outrage, looking at the chain of cause-and-effect, she definitely took actions that had a very high probability of leading to being shot. Do you disagree? I don't see how looking at this shooting from a moral framing is sensible or likely to be productive in any way regardless of which side "wins" and is able to execute policy based on it.

> It got a lot of attention because it is death, because it was avoidable, because it was the responsibility of ICE to make it avoidable, and because popular tension breaks at unpredictable moments

See, I don't think it's actually unpredictable at all. There are very good reasons there aren't mass riots in Canada over police not in any particular danger shooting up someone driving a stolen truck, and there are for Americans ICE shooting a woman who, at best, disobeyed clear instructions and operated her vehicle with a reckless disregard for human life.