Comment by bandrami

19 days ago

A poor person today has a better standard of living than a rich person in the 1700s

That seems improbable unless they, say, own hundreds of slaves, travel extensively in Europe, never want for food or alcohol, own multiple houses, etc.

Eg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Manigault

  • Machinery, computers, and the internet do more than hundreds of slaves/servants worth of work (how many musicians and actors would have to be at your call to replicate YouTube, which is free?). A poor person in Europe can still travel all over the Eurozone by train, etc. In the first world, we pivoted to "food insecurity" instead of "hunger", but the most common signifier of being food insecure is obesity: more food and alcohol than a person should want, at least. The only one that is a definite downgrade among those you list is the lack of owned houses and/or land.

    • > A poor person in Europe can still travel all over the Eurozone

      I picked a rich person in the Americas with hundreds of slaves, many houses, considerable land, a thriving business delivering returns, political connections, and frequently holiday on another continent.

      This is well above the standard of living of a poor person in contemporary America.

No they don't. I don't live in a mansion with dozens of rooms, servants and footmen.

  • Poor people have hundreds of servants, they're just robotic: a dishwasher, a laundry washer, a water heater, a door announcer, a courier who can travel at the speed of light, etc.

  • Everybody now has antibiotics, oral contraception, machines to preserve and cook food, clean, heat your home, pass messages and put on music and plays in your living room.

    Who now needs dozens of personal physicians (practicing 19thC medicine!), prostitutes, cooks, maids, messenger boys and musicians?

    • I don't use most of the things you described. I don't sleep around so don't need two of those.

      My home is currently unheated thanks to high utility costs and taxes.

      The last three times I was on antibiotics they did almost nothing for me.