Comment by threetonesun

18 days ago

Kagi's Assistant is the most useful tool I've found as far as searching goes, and occasionally simple codegen. Let's you use a wide variety of models and isn't tracking me.

Edit from my previous comment: Actually tried Kagi assistant through orion/signed up and its really good (GLM 4.7) but still there is some amount of tracking/logs still kept

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/llms-privacy.html

I also didn't find in kagi what provider its using for glm 4.7 (I am assuming the same as glm 4.6) which is Cerebras,DeepInfra,Fireworks.ai and some of these use large companies like aws etc. so you are still putting trust into them

I somehow made kagi assistant mention proton lumo and it sort of agreed with me that its a good option too

I think Proton lumo (for simple queries, although i still don't know which model they use & it's pretty restrictive plus I wish they might have used glm 4.7) but its good.

Cerebras terms and policy needs to be seen again by me but I had talked to cerebras on discord once and they mention that they don't log too but I might ask them again but cerebras might make more sense but for basic codegen proton's lumo is good too.

My eyes are on proton lumo & confer.to but kagi's pretty good too (as much as they can be fwiw but they still rely on api, I feel like kagi's make sense if you are already using kagi search or want AI to use kagi search feature imo)

I looked at some of these privacy policy and

If we are talking about complete privacy. I am trying out https://confer.to (created by signal team) too and I am unable to run it on my mac (passkey support)(I tried it both in zen & orion) but I tried it on an android chrome (tablet) and I am kinda more optimistic about it too

I have heard good things about Kagi in fact, that's the reason why I tried orion and still have it in the first place but I haven't bought Kagi, I just used the free searches orion gives & I don't know if it has Kagi's assistant.

I think proton's Lumo is another good bet.

If you want something to not track you, I once asked cerebras team on their discord if they track the queries and responses from their website try now feature and they said that they don't. I don't really see a reason why they might lie about it given that its only meant for very basic purposes & they don't train models or anything.

You also get one of the fastest inferences for models including GLM 4.7 (which z.ai uses)

You might not get search results though but for search related queries duck.ai's pretty good and you can always mix and match.

But Cerebras recently got a 10 billion $ investment from OpenAI and I Have been critical of them from now on so do be wary now.

Kagi Assistant does seem to be good if someone already uses Kagi or has a subscription of it from what I feel like.