Comment by unglaublich
19 hours ago
I think JPEG XL's naming was unfortunate. People want to associate new image formats with leanness, lightness, efficiency.
19 hours ago
I think JPEG XL's naming was unfortunate. People want to associate new image formats with leanness, lightness, efficiency.
There was a constraint - since 2009, the Joint Photographic Experts Group had published JPEG XR, JPEG XT and JPEG XS, and they were probably reluctant to break that naming scheme.
They're running out of good options, but I hope they stick with it long enough to release "JPEG XP" :-)
JPEG XP would have been a nice name for a successor of JPEG 2000, I suppose :)
There's also a JPEG XE now (https://jpeg.org/jpegxe/index.html), by the way.
They can tack on more letters, or increment the X, as required.
Incidentally, JPEG Vista would be thematically appropriate.
Good one - made me and a coworker both LOL (in the literal sense) :D
JPEG ME
Considering "jpeg" has become the shorthand for "digital picture", it would be a shame not to capitalise on it.
I feel like "jpeg" has generally become a shorthand for "low quality compressed digital picture"
Hence the meme response "Needs more jpeg" https://old.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/2ct3ax/e...
In the photography world it's shorthand for "photo unedited straight from the camera". Popular with Fujifilm cameras especially due to their 'film simulation' modes which apply basically a filter to the image.
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I feel like you need to find better places on the internet. It's no longer 1997 downloading from dial up.
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"diJital PEGchure"
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Nah, that's WEBP, the most hated file format.
JPEG XS :D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG_XS
Excess?!? I certainly don't want any of that in my image encoding formats!
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It seems to me this point of discussion always tends to get way too much focus. Should it really raise concern?
Of all the people who interact with image formats in some way, how many do even know what an image format is? How many even notice they’ve got different names? How many even give them any consideration? And out of those, how many are immediately going to think JPEG XL must be big, heavy and inefficient? And out of those, how many are going to stop there without considering that maybe the new image format could actually be pretty good? Sure, there might be some, but I really don’t think it’s a fraction of a significant size.
Moreover, how many people in said fraction are going to remember the name (and thus perhaps the format) far more easily by remembering it’s got such a stupid name?
I found it unfortunate because it's not a JPEG.
It has an operation mode where it can losslessly and reversibly compress a JPEG further, and "not a jpeg" wouldn't cover that.
JPEG XL is the thing that makes your JPEG smaller?
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Just call it JXL.
Pronounced jixel?
Pronounced like French « j’excelle » (I excel).
(Kidding.)
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Yes, and JAY EXCEL for the savages like me
It's JPEG Extra Lovely.
Crappy as a .jpg, only bigger.
Actually, I remember when JPEG XL came out, and I just thought: cool, file that one away for when I have a really big image I need to display. Which turned out to be never.
Names have consequences.
I regularly work with images larger than 65,535px per side.
WEBP can only do 16,383px per side and the AVIF spec can technically do 65,535, but encoders tap out far before then. Even TIFF uses 32-bit file offsets so can't go above 4GB without custom extensions.
Guess which format, true to its name, happens to support 1,073,741,823px per side? :-)
> Crappy as a .jpg, only bigger.
Honestly, that's exactly what it sounds like to me too. I know it's not, but it's still what it sounds like. And it's just way too many letters total. When we have "giff" and "ping" as one-syllable names, "jay-peg-ex-ell" is unfortunate.
Really should have been an entirely new name, rather than extending what is already an ugly acronym.
I’ll never not say pee-en-gee. You’re right though.
I always have called it PNG pee-en-ji, and JPEG XL for me has p much all the time been jay-x-el.
μJPEG
And yet WEBP decided to associate itself with urine, which google then forced on everyone using their monopoly power.
JPEG 15 Pro Max
Nobody can keep you from forking the spec and calling yours JPEG SM.
> Nobody can keep you from forking the spec
ISO: "Challenge accepted." [1]
[1] https://www.iso.org/standard/85066.html
Shouldn't that be JPEG℠ vs JPEG™?
Do you have anything to back this up?