Comment by pjmlp
5 hours ago
If you want to piss off even more, those that buy Apple only because they want a shinny UNIX, but don't buy into Apple's culture since Mac OS Classic days, you only need to remind them that Steve Jobs was hardly a UNIX fanboy.
Just like with Microsoft strategies, for NeXT, having NeXTSTEP being based on UNIX was more to check boxes against Sun, and bring software into the platform, not to make it easy to go out, hence the whole userspace stack, even drivers, are based on Objective-C frameworks.
"Why We Have to Make UNIX Invisible."
https://www.usenix.org/blog/vault-steve-jobs-keynotes-1987-u...
> They said a Unix weenie was code for software engineers who hated what we were doing to Unix (the operating system we licensed)—putting a graphical user interface on it to dumb it down for grandmothers. They heckled Steve about his efforts to destroy it. His nightmare would be to speak to a crowd of them.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180628214613/https://www.cake....
"NeXT marketing strategy video (1991)"
You sure you're replying to the right post? I wasn't really engaging with the "is it UNIX or not" debates elsewhere in the parent threads; just talking about why security bypass wasn't mentioned in TFA.
Yes I am,
> This is going to piss off some Linux folks, but when communicating from a big pulpit about how to bypass parts of MacOS, it's important to be aware that the vast majority of MacOS users are casual, nontechnical users.
See Steve Jobs remark about grandmothers.
> those that buy Apple only because they want a shinny UNIX
Those people don’t exist. People buy Apple for many good reasons; this isn’t one of them.
Yes they do, you only have to walk FOSDEM corridors to find them.