Comment by CuriouslyC
18 days ago
Brains are adaptive. We're not getting dumber, we're just adapting to a new environment. Just because they're less fit for other environments doesn't make it worse.
As for the productivity paradox, this discounts the reality that we wouldn't even be able to scale the institutions we're scaling without the tech. Whether that scaling is a good thing is debatable.
> Brains are adaptive.
They are, but you go on to assume that they will adapt in a good way.
Bodies are adaptive too. That didn't work out well for a lot of people when their environment changed to be sedentary.
Yes, that's like saying I'm not weak, just my muscles are adapted to the couch.
Weak is relative. All humans are weak compared to an elephant and strong compared to a mouse. If strength stops being a competitive advantage in humans then weakness isn't a signal that determines outcomes.
Brains are adaptive and as we adapt we are turning more cognitive unbalanced. We're absorbing potentially bias information at a faster rate. GPT can give you information of X in seconds. Have you thought about it? Is that information correct? Information can easily be adapted to sound real while masking the real as false.
Launching a search engine and searching may spew incorrectness but it made you make judgement, think. You could have two different opinions one underneath each other; you saw both sides of the coin.
We are no longer critical thinking. We are taking information at face value, marking it as correct and not questioning is it afterwards.
The ability to evaluate critically and rationally is what's decaying. Who opens an physical encyclopedia nowadays? That itself requires resources, effort and time. Add in life complexity; that doesn't help us in evaluating and rejecting consumption of false information. The Wall-E view isn't wrong.
I see a lot of people grinding and hustling in a way that would have crushed people 75 years ago. I don't think our lack of desire to crack an encyclopedia for a fact rather than rely on AI to serve up a probably right answer is down to laziness, we just have bigger fish to fry.
Valid point, amended my viewpoint to cater to that, thanks.
>We are no longer critical thinking
Please provide evidence that masses of people ever were critically thinking across general fields they were not involved in.
Everyone seems to take for face value there was a golden age of critical thinking done by the masses is at some time in the indeterminate past, but regardless of when you ask this question, the answer is always "in the past".
I surmise your thesis is incorrect and supplant this one instead.
The average person can only apply critical thinking on a very limited amount of information, and typically on topics they deal with that have a quick feedback loop of consequences.
Deep critical thinkers across vast topics are rare, and have always been rare. There are likely far more of them than ever now, but this falls into the next point
Information and complexity are exploding, the amount of data required to navigate the world we now live in is far larger than just a few generations ago. Couple this with the amount of information being presented to individuals and you run into actual physics constraints on the amount of information the human brain can distil into a useful model.
By (monetary) necessity people have become deep specialists in limited topics, analogies and paradigms don't necessarily work across different topics. For example, understanding code very well has very little bearing on if I grok the reality of practiced political sociology, and my idea of what is critical thinking around it is very likely to have a very large prediction mismatch to what actually happens.
Critical thining requires knowledge, which is why LLM appear OK at it, and I fear the next generation of humans will be worse.
> Who opens an physical encyclopedia nowadays? I know plenty of people who binge wikipedia and learn new things through that. While Wikipedia is not always perfect, it's not like older printed encyclopaedia like Britannica were perfect either.
You have a point with trusting AI, but I'm starting to see people around me realising that LLMs tend to be overconfident even when wrong and verifying the source instead of just trusting. That's the way I use something like perplexity, I use it as an improved search engines and then tend to visit the sources it lists.
> Just because they're less fit for other environments doesn't make it worse.
You think it's likely that we offload cognitive difficulty and complexity to machines, and our brains don't get worse at difficult, complex problems?
Brains are adaptive but skills are cumulative. You can't get good at what you don't practice.
> Just because they're less fit for other environments doesn't make it worse.
It literally does. If your brain shuts down the moment you can't access your LLM overlord then you're objectively worse.
The reality is that the LLM overlord stays accessible most of the time. Works until it doesn’t is kinda adaptivity’s motto.
So the real test is waiting until the LLMs are inaccessible and then seeing what happens. Empirical testing!