Comment by overfeed
1 day ago
Care to explain how the volume of AI research papers authored by Chinese researchers[1] has exceeded US-published ones? Time-traveling plagiarism perhaps, since you believe the US is destined to lead always.
1. Chinese researcher in China, to be more specific.
Not a great metric, research in academia doesn't necessarily translate to value. In the US they've poached so many academics because of how much value they directly translate to.
I don't doubt China wouldn't be capable of making SOTA models, however they are very heavily compute constrained. So they are forced to shortcut compute by riding the coattails of compute heavy models.
They need a training-multiplier breakthrough that would allow them to train SOTA models on on a fraction of the compute that the US does. And this would also have to be kept a secret and be well hidden (often multiple researchers from around the world put the pieces together on a problem at around the same time, so the breakthrough would have to be something pretty difficult to discover for the greatest minds in the field) to prevent the US from using it to multiply their model strength with their greater compute.
Volume is easy: they have far more people, it is quality that counts.
Yeah, and if anything it's US defying massive disadvantage in headcount is what is odd, not the other way around.
Perhaps you should pay attention to where the puck is going to be, rather than where it is currently. Lots of original ideas are coming out of Chinese AI research[1], denying this betrays some level of cope.
1. e.g. select any DeepSeek release, and read the accompanying paper
I'll pay attention to where the puck is because that is something I can observe, where it is going to be is anybody's guess. Lots of original ideas are coming out of Chinese AI research but there is also lots of junk. I think in the longer term they will have the advantage but right now that simply isn't the case.
Your 'cope' accusation has no place here, I have no dog in the race and do not need to cope with anything.
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