Comment by whilenot-dev

1 month ago

> Isn't it sad that we now have Russian, Chinese, American, European, etc alternatives? [...] Shouldn't we rather fight that nationalistic power grab [...]

While I agree with your sentiment, European and nationalistic are two contradicting positions, unlike the other three mentioned superpowers.

Not really. The forging pan-European nation composed of many nationalities is a thing in all meaningful contexts. European civilization, European economy, European products, European voters etc.

  • Not really, no. Europe is neither a sovereign state nor a single political entity. It's a continent composed of many individual nations with a versatile history.

    I mean sure, your example shows that the virtue of being "European" represents a certain demographic and a sovereign territory. Again, it's a continent, so what?

What is nation is not a objective question. People can define Europe as nation and then you can have an nationalistic Europe.

  • > People can define Europe as nation and then you can have a nationalistic Europe.

    Right, it they do not. You’d have to stretch the definition of nation beyond its breaking point for Europe to be a nation. It would include Russia and Ukraine, Finland and Greece, none of these nations have much in common.

  • That’s just as meaningful in the context as saying that humanity is a nation for some definition of the term.

    Europe is many things, but probably a poor base to push any nationalistic aspiration.