Comment by tokyobreakfast
17 hours ago
I read at least one thread per day criticizing Tesla self-driving (which has hundreds of highly-paid engineers working on it) as unreliable vaporware, meanwhile I'm supposed to hack my car with some code off a GitHub repo?
I'll be adding this to my list of 101 creative ways to die, behind basement apartment in Venice, Italy.
Creating an open source project makes a space for collaboration.
There is a future where every manufacturer shares the same self-driving software.
You already trust your privacy and financial security to open source projects. There is a future where you also trust it for a self driving car.
> You already trust your privacy and financial security to open source projects.
Neither of which have safety-of-life implications. If your email or bank gets hacked they don't bury you in a box.
Maybe, but it is the present which concerns me.
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My thoughts exactly.
This is a horrible idea for a bunch of reasons.
Real driver assist systems are tested for each car for millions of miles before release.
I can imagine this as a toy on a recreational vehicle like an ATV, but it's outright reckless to put this on a real car.
Except this works so much better than the stock driver assist on most cars.
Maybe it does.
No way to tell without actual testing. As a giant obvious thing, if the adhesive isn't applied right it'll probably fall down during your commute .
At a minimum it should be screwed in or something.
Like I said, it's a cool toy. Put it on an ATV, not a real car.
Nobody is making you do this, they're not even charging you for it. Comparing to a company worth billions is disingenious.
Those companies worth billions like GM and Tesla perform extensive testing to prove to regulators their software isn't going to kill people and does not pose an unacceptable risk to other drivers on the road. Do you get to sidestep all that if you post your code to GitHub?
Why not? You are free to modify your vehicle in almost anyway you want as a consumer. Should someone putting some rain shields on their window require licensing and government testing for it because it might break off? Should generic brake pads or tierod ends require independent government testing or approval to be purchased and used?
Regulations don't exist to save people from their own stupid mistakes, they exist to prevent systemic abuses and dangers to the public in the pursuit of profit. And we already know from endless examples that corporations will knowingly let people die if their decision will increase profit margins. Not to mention the public doesn't have the ability to properly test or verify corporate designed and sold devices. Unless corporations provide all documentation related to the design and materials and code used, they should have special restrictions and regulations beyond what the average person does.
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Yup, because you get to be personally responsible for any outcomes just like you would be if you were driving without ai assistance. If you aren’t comfortable building and testing an open source project then it isn’t for you.
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Imagine if they all worked together on an open source project together.
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There have been dozens of fatalities due to Tesla self driving tech. As far as I know there haven't been any fatalities due to Comma tech.
> they're not even charging you for it
The github repo says to use openpilot, you will need to buy a comma device[1], which they sell at $999.[2]
[1] https://github.com/commaai/openpilot?tab=readme-ov-file#usin...
[2] https://comma.ai/shop/comma-four
True. But what about the guy next to me on the 405? Or the guy driving towards me on Camino Real? They are kinda "making me do this".
Tesla FSD is awesome. I use it almost all the time now, it feels safer than me driving. It's like having a private chauffeur. My disengagements are mostly nav related.
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