Comment by nickmccann

5 hours ago

If you have advanced data protection enabled, Apple claims: “No one else can access your end-to-end encrypted data — not even Apple — and this data remains secure even in the case of a data breach in the cloud.”

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651

Please read this section of Apple's own document before you talk about their "advanced data protection".

The following information may be available from iCloud if a user has enabled Advanced Data Protection for iCloud:

https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/law-enforcement-guidelin...

Do you think Tim Cook gave that gold bar to Trump for nothing?

  • > For users that have enabled Advanced Data Protection, iCloud stores content for email, contacts, and calendars that the customer has elected to maintain in the account while the customer’s account remains active. This data may be provided, as it exists in the customer’s account, in response to a search warrant issued upon a showing of probable cause, or customer consent.

    > Apple does not receive or retain encryption keys for customer’s end-to-end encrypted data. Advanced Data Protection uses end-to-end encryption, and Apple cannot decrypt certain iCloud content, including Photos, iCloud Drive, Backup, Notes, and Safari Bookmarks

  • >Please read this section of Apple's own document

    Don't know if the problem is on my end but your link goes to a 20 page document. If this is not a mistake you should quote the actual section and text you are referrimg to.

  • >>Do you think Tim Cook gave that gold bar to Trump for nothing?

    Not in US - THANKS for this hint: I googled it! Wow!!! The both do bribery (offering&accepting) in front of the recording camera in a government building!!

    Relly "impressive" :-X

Yeah, the problem is whether they already bent over for Trump admin or not yet.

  • Yes, I know this sounds conspiratorial, but I think the whole Liquid Ass thing was a rush to put some other software in Apple products to appease the Trump admin.

    For example, it is new in Tahoe that they store your filevault encryption key in your icloud keychain without telling you.

    https://sixcolors.com/post/2025/09/filevault-on-macos-tahoe-...

    • But iCloud Keychain is end-to-end encrypted using device-specific keys, so Apple cannot read items in your iCloud Keychain (modulo adding their own key as a device key, rolling out a backdoor, etc. but that applies to all proprietary software).

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    • My conspiration theory about Liquid Ass is their hardware for past 5 years was so good that they needed to make people finally upgrade it. My Air M1 16GB worked absolutely fine until it slowed down immensely on macOS 26.