Comment by jeffbee

3 days ago

ICE thugs have been recruited largely from white nationalist rallies and forums. Literally, not as some kind of metaphor. DHS executives post white nationalist propaganda hourly on Twitter. Stephen Miller, an out-of-the-closet Nazi, is the acting president of the United States. Their goal is to start a race war that they believe they can win by murdering 100 million Americans.

Just in case anyone thinks you are exaggerating: https://x.com/DHSgov/status/2006472108222853298

  • For those who can't access the link, this is the United States DHS with the quote

    > The peace of a nation no longer besieged by the third world.

    featuring an illustration of an oldsmobile at a tropical sunny beach with the text "America After 100 Million Deportations".

    The implication is that a white ethnostate will be paradise.

    Notably, 100M is not the number of non-citizens in the United States, it's roughly the number of non-White people (90M, per https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045224)

    • "This image was stolen and is actually a piece of art by the Japanese artist Hiroshi Nagai.

      47 million of the United States’ 340 million population is foreign-born, the majority of those being legal immigrants. To do 100 million deportations they’d have to deport citizens. "

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  • The federal government really has become nothing more than a bunch of social media influencers.

    • Nazis. The federal government has become nothing more than actual, honest-to-God Nazis.

      The other day, the official DHS presser had them prominently displaying a direct Nazi slogan: "One of ours, All of yours".

      This, of course, referenced how that day one of their ICE agents murdered an innocent US citizen.

Lots of Department of Corrections officers have been recruited as well. There's going to be so many lawsuits after these guys go back to running the Federal prisons with this new attitude.

  • Yeah, the fact that Democratic state and local governments have tolerated the decades-long slide of sheriffs and prison guards and in some cases even the local police into white nationalist gangs will be looked upon as a strategic mistake.

    • They haven't just tolerated it. They've decided that cops are deserving of nearly unlimited reverence and they've actively supported the increased funding and militarization of cops. Police unions have become right wing political agitators from within the state apparatus.

      Cops are doing what they were doing in the jim crow era: enforcing a strict caste system with violence.

I don't think we can just blame white people for this. A lot of the ICE agents are non-white and many non-whites voted for Trump. In fact, most of the pro-immigrant people I meet are white!

  • Nobody is blaming white people. They're pointing out, correctly, that the United States is lead by a white nationalist regime.

  • You're correct that it would be wrong to just blame white people for this, but I don't think anyone is doing that. No one is claiming that all white people support ICE, or that all ICE agents are white, or that all white people are anti-immigrant.

    However, it is the case that American culture is and historically has been built upon white supremacist principles and that the default identity in the US politically and culturally is white, and that therefore white people generally enjoy a status of privilege and political power that other groups do not, and thus a responsibility that others do not. And the links between the Trump administration, alt-right movements and white supremacist groups in the US are well known and documented, even though minority groups voted for him as well.

    So it would be just as wrong to dismiss the premise that "white people" are to blame due to pedantry as it would be to blame all white people. "White people" do carry the lion's share of the blame as a community and culture even if not literally every white person does. That's the nature of systemic racism.

  • What good is blame going to do right now?

    Let's stop the bleeding before bike shedding over who done it.