Comment by curiousgal

15 days ago

People are blaming vibe coding but the real culprit was hiring leetcoders in the first place. I genuinely believe the stark decrease in quality of most products across the industry has been driven by that.

A developer said to me once, outside of work hours: "Why are you serious about [fundamentals]? [Framework] is where all the money is at." Work cultures that embrace those with his philosophy will have trouble. And here we are.

  • Where can I find places that value fundamentals AND is willing to hire someone relatively junior, but has the proof of self-teaching fundamentals?

    • They exist but are rare and don't hire often. I know a guy (self taught programmer) who got his first major a job at a company doing native ui (not even using OS frameworks, straight GPU stuff).

      The company does highly complex simulation software used by movie studios for explosions and other effects.

      He got hired by word of mouth recommendation from someone at the company that had met him.

      It takes as much luck as it takes skill to get these sorts of jobs, sadly.

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