Comment by mittensc
14 days ago
I'm an expert in the field and I can say EVs are much less pollutant then ICE cars.
Do give your best shot to debunk that.
14 days ago
I'm an expert in the field and I can say EVs are much less pollutant then ICE cars.
Do give your best shot to debunk that.
Even where they are charged using coal? Please provide the research on that. Note that I'll be checking who funded and who performed the peer review, so please choose carefully before posting.
How would you put coal in EV?! They're electric, you plug them in!
You provide the research to prove ICE is cleaner.
Go in detail, I'll check everything:
- cost of extraction
- cost of byproducts
- cost of refining
- waste during refining
- cost of transporting oil to the pump (what do oil transport ships burn?)
- cost of burning that oil
- analysis on car age affecting emissions
- analysis of cheating like volkswagen
- full analysis of ICE car manufacturing
- Cost of wars to give us oil
- cost of weaponry needed to make oil producers behave and sell it at a decent price
- cost of aircraft carriers positioned around the world to enforce that.
- health cost of breathing in fumes.
- total cost of lead poisoning done by ICE cars until it was forbidden.
- health costs of noxes from diesel cars.
- costs of cars with dpf off or cat converter removed or just bad engines.
- Environmental impact of shale oil and water aquifers destruction and earthquakes.
- (reserve the right to add more after you provide the above)
"Coal in the EV?"
Based on that I no longer believe you are an expert of any chemistry or energy. Or you are really bad at making jokes maybe?
Regardless, electricity for your EV comes from somewhere, right? It's powered by a coal power plant in much of the US, with electrical energy transduced (effective loss at every transduction point) through countless parts and miles of electrical equipment before it reaches your charger.
Are you about to tell me that coal is cleaner than gasoline? It's not remotely comparable. Coal is insanely dirty. This is common knowledge.
Every metric you asked about applies to coal and much worse and therefore to your EV in vast swathes of America.
The EV in such places is doubly destructive. You've burned coal AND mined lithium and shipped it, plus you're carrying a heavier load, and your batteries are short lived, and toxic.
There's simply no comparison. Be real.
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