Comment by ogogmad

2 days ago

That's way higher than I thought. Is there any evidence? Dresden was 25,000, and the V2 and V1 campaigns had less numbers. So this is high even for an aerial bombing campaign.

[edit] I don't get why I'm getting downvoted. Are people making assumptions because I mentioned Dresden? Get a hold of yourself.

Aerial bombardments typically target areas with ~0.01 people/square meter, and those people are often in hardened shelters. A protest may have 1–4 people/square meter out in the open. Attacks targeting the latter cause orders of magnitude more casualties for the same amount of firepower.

And the crowd itself can be deadly if it gets too dense, due to panic or otherwise. For example, there have been at least two crowd collapse events with >1000 deaths in the Mecca pilgrimage.

  • To add to this, Dresden was just one city. We’re talking about nationwide protests in a country of 90 million people.

I think it's just a stupid comparison. Aerial bombing campaign on a single city 80 years ago vs government coming down on protesters distributed in over 100 cities was the best reference you could find to doubt these numbers?

  • You shouldn't think that everyone has a fine-tuned sense of scale for how many protesters a government can kill in a short amount of time.

first: it's not in one day, it is over three weeks. Second, the 25000 is an extrapolation. Basically the Iran Islamic republic has a tendency to admit to 10-15% of the death toll, and they admit 3000 death.

It is a fair question.