Comment by frumplestlatz

12 hours ago

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The people of Minneapolis are defending their right to accept foreigners into their community. Do you genuinely think those people are being paid? That all those protestors don't genuinely feel that way? That the majority in that state don't, as the polls say, want those people there?

If you really think that people in Texas and Florida have the right to say who gets to live in Minnesota, why?

  • I think most people would agree that the country has a right to enforce its border integrity -- after all, that's sort of a prerequisite for being a sovereign nation.

    But not with an unaccountable, unidentifiable, largely-untrained, and "absolutely immune" paramilitary police force, forcibly deployed in cities that don't want them there. Cities that are, in any event, nowhere near any borders.

    This isn't really about immigration enforcement. If it were, then what ICE was doing under Biden was more effective than what Trump is doing now, just going by the numbers. There is a widespread conspiracy theory, to which I wholeheartedly subscribe, that maintains that Trump is deliberately trying to provoke circumstances that will justify his use of the Insurrection Act or other quasi-legal shenanigans to ratfuck the midterm elections.

  • The people of Florida and Texas do not have the right to say who gets to live in Minnesota, but neither do the people of Minnesota. The federal government has sole authority over immigration (but not to murder people while enforcing, obviously). The alternative is ridiculous and incompatible with freedom of movement within the country.

I've seen the latest video and it was murder beyond any reasonable doubt. The ICE agent drew his gun and shot the man in the back at least four times while he was kneeling on the ground and being beaten and kicked by other ICE agents.

That's a fact. I must assume you haven't watched the video.

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    • It is fact and you're wrong. He was being beaten. No doubt about it and I'm willing to die on that hill. I'd even swear this under oath. There is more than one video by the way.

      I'm not going to "discuss" this any further though. The evidence is crystal-clear. That's all I have to say about it. (I'm not from the US and don't care much about your internal problems, but I have eyes.)

    • Why are you so intent on defending these ICE agents. Even if you think ICE is doing good stuff overall. If you actually cared about justice you would be at least calling for the officers involved to be suspended.