Comment by pibaker

14 days ago

It could be prevented by simply not flying over an active war zone, something airlines do all the times to prevent the exact same thing from happening.

Or Girkin not ordering the civilian plane full of people to be shot down. It was a civilian plane at 10km altitude with a transponder on. Really doesn't look like a jet on a radar.

And up to that point Russia wasn't known to supply the separatists with an anti air system and the crew to run it.

  • Doesn’t look like a F14 either but a US warship, rather than some guys in a field, still managed to pull that off and send 290 people to their graves.

    • But it did look like an F-14. There really was an F-14, just on the ground at an Iranian airbase. And the Vincennes was under armed attack at the time--Iran let a civilian jetliner overfly their own attack. Plenty of blame for them, also.

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  • That’s not the point, though.

    Don’t fly a commercial passenger jet over an active known war zone. Then you don’t even really have to think about whether the separatists below you know whether your signature looks like a fighter jet or not lol.

    Never leave your safety to the vagaries of Russian incompetence or malice, surely.

    • Russia is active war zone. Russians are flying commercial passenger jets over active war zone and then shooting them. Embraer E190 was the latest victim of Russians. Russia is the problem.

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  • I remember seeing video of the guys behind it seeing the wreckage and saying something like 'shit it was an airliner'. I think they shot thinking it was a military aircraft.

    I'm not sure why Girkin would want to shot down an airliner?

  • It would seem the air defense systems used could not reliably determine what you imply they should [1][2]. I’m not sure where you’re coming from, or why it would matter what one country was known or not known to do.

    [1]: https://www.technologyreview.com/2014/07/18/12951/how-can-a-...

    [2]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/07/18...

    • > why it would matter what one country was known or not known to do.

      It absolutely matters.

      Flying over a war zone with known anti aircraft missiles is quite different to flying over a low level conflict that is using small arms only.

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