Comment by skhameneh

12 days ago

It's been overreach since the start of FAA claims on low altitude space.

From what I understand their jurisdiction didn't begin until 500 feet into the air.

Not only is it overreach, it's encouraging impediments on what has been largely considered private property.

When are you suggesting this overreach began?

FAA has asserted jurisdiction below 500' for a long time: balloons and kites since 1963, ultralights since 1982.

FAA certainly asserts regulatory authority over aircraft below 500', everything does takeoffs and landings of some sort, but ground operations are also subject to regulation.

  • Historically, the FAA had zero interest/jurisdiction in most hobbyist aircraft below 500 feet, they would not even bother entertaining such as it was not relevant to their opperations. Helicopters, planes, and quadcopters could be flown freely under general guidance, with no actual enforcing regulations. These were largely not seen as something the FAA had jurisdiction over, nor did the FAA express any interest. It was widely accepted that fields away from an airport and at low altitude were outside of controlled airspace.

    Then come affordable drones and suddenly the FAA attempts to exert full regulation over the space.

    To answer your question, roughly 2012 is when this started.

    • >Historically, the FAA had zero interest/jurisdiction in most hobbyist aircraft below 500 feet, they would not even bother entertaining such as it was not relevant to their opperations.

      This is not correct. See 14 CFR 101, 103, and 105. There's a long history of the FAA concerning itself with hobbyists flying model aircraft, moored, and unmanned balloon, rockets, kites, parachutes, and ultralights. I mentioned this, you glossed over it. Their histories predate 2012.

      https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14

      >Helicopters, planes, and quadcopters could be flown freely under general guidance, with no actual enforcing regulations.

      Helicopters and airplanes have been regulated under 14 CFR 91 for a very long time, and were regulated by the CAA (the Civil Aeronautical Authority, precursor to FAA), and their operations are certainly regulated below 500'. And it is definitely enforced.

      If you're referring to the years long regulatory lag for drones/sUAS before the The FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012 which also gave us 49 USC 44809 "Exception for limited recreational operations of unmanned aircraft" - ummm, well all I can say is welcome to aviation. It's been significantly regulated the whole time, and just because some folks were not aware of this fact, doesn't mean it wasn't.

      Maybe check out The Great Waldo Pepper with Robert Redford though. That begins in a genuinely unregulated era.