Comment by Barrin92

13 days ago

>to make them think and act in specific ways.

with the kind of images that are out in the open for everybody with their own eyes to see, if that does not move you in your heart of hearts, where no government or anyone else can touch you, there is something rotten in that person.

Governments and authority figures can show you a lot of things but the amount of people who not just accept it, but gleefully celebrate the most vulnerable people in society beaten by government thugs, there is no excuse. People can show you false images, false numbers but they can't make you feel proud for the strong abusing the weak. It's particularly appalling if you see the amount of them who call themselves Christians.

The problem is that by the time some people encounter these shocking images and videos of mass human torture, their priors have already been developed to reject their eyes and ears in favor of what the people with whom they've entrusted their safety tell them.

These people think Charlie Kirk was on the frontlines of personal freedom, but look the other way when a man gets tackled and shot in broad daylight for trying to help a woman who's just been maced.

It's horrible, and inexcusable, but still crucial to understand through a framework that accounts for the effects of multi-generational propaganda peddled by the ultra-rich who have been shaping our thoughts and behaviors through advertisement and capital for hundreds of years.

  • << shot in broad daylight for trying to help a woman who's just been maced.

    Yes.. do I get to get between DEA and their intended target? No? If not, why not. If yes, why yes? The framing is silly.

    The death may be tragic and very much avoidable, but it was avoidable on both ends of this interaction. There is no comparison to Kirk here at all. He came to talk to people. Pretti went there as part of a signal group coordinating to obstruct a federal enforcement agency..

    Ngl.. how people choose their heroes is beyond me.

    • Anyone who stands up to a tyrannical government and a wannabe dictator's secret police is a hero to me. He died a hero. He was helping a woman who was being maced by a group of lawless masked thugs masquerading as law enforcement who are unwelcome in the neighborhoods they patrol. Any other perspective requires being ignorant of the context.

      ICE is a rogue organization, our Executive and Legislative branches have gone rogue; our government no longer works for us, it works against us, and any attempt to validate the actions of this fascist attack on state sovereignty is seen exactly for what it is. There are too many video angles for you to see this tragic death as anything other than what it is.

      You're right that there was no comparison to Kirk here. Alex was actually on the frontlines, intentionally putting his life on the line for human rights.

      Yet, Kirk himself would have absolutely been appalled at how the US government has treated the rash of shootings in Minnesota, and how they're now being used once again to assault our first and second amendment rights. He would not be siding with ICE or Trump on this one, but since he's dead they can parade around his image and make his fan base believe this is all somehow fair and warranted.

      Grow a spine.

Yeah those guys, I think you are talking about Manga, They are not Christians, they are just using that as cover for already poisoned hearts.

  • I can point to countless times in history where belief in the Christian God was used to murder, subjugate and torture "others". The reality is that, regardless of what nice things Jesus may or may not have said, Christianity as an institution has always been used as a tool for power and coercion. That goes for all Abrahamic religions.

    • I'm not a Christian myself but I can see why bad people use religions to promote there agendas because of its hierarchical framework