Comment by xvector

2 days ago

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"Help is on the way" from the US is often not a great propositon. Doubly so today.

https://reason.com/2026/01/23/the-trump-administration-plans...

The US shipped the carrier battle group in the region out to support the Venezuela operations, and is deporting asylum seekers back to their deaths this week.

Nobody in the US has any idea what is happening in Iran. Judging by the weird, not very HN like threads on this post, sounds like we are going to.

The fact that he said that and then DID NOT topple the government in Iran is insane.. completely irresponsible, or rather responsible.. for those deaths.

The irony is that now those who are still alive in Iran might remember this and update their notion of US trustworthiness accordingly.

Do you think that the people encouraging ice protests share some culpability in the deaths of the other protesters?

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  • Also, we already have Iran on sanctions and every possible diplomatic hostility short of war. What should we rationally ask for from our government? Invasion?

  • We should be angry about both situations but most people truly don't give a fuck about the latter. It is not just the Iran situation though.

    We make decisions all the time that result in immense amount of unnecessary suffering because of a total lack of rationality.

    Our food consumption choices alone have created the objectively largest and most horrific engine of suffering in the history of this planet, all for the pleasure of our taste buds. The average person is directly responsible for this.

    It is the irrationality and lack of empathy of the average person that bothers me. Unless you show them a video of protestors being massacred in Iran, or take them to a factory farm, they don't care. And even then, they often don't care. Why?

    Suffering is roughly sortable and it is certainly within the power of most people to drive down the greatest sources of suffering, and pressure their government to do so when it is not directly within their power.

    But people are irrational.

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  • Such a ridiculous take. Get off your hate wagon. Also I argue no "leftists" support opposing ICE or Palestine out of "leftism". Only hateful bigots would support the execution of our people on our streets, or denying Palestinians their rights to exist and to freedom, free from a zionist ideology that has no respect for property or for life. Maybe if our "right wingers" and "Zionist" friends put humanity first and not politics or racist judaism first, they would not sound as hateful as you do now bud. Your comment is vile, and I can only imagine the hate you have in your bones. Although I will exclude right wingers here, since they are as of late huge supporters of the palestinian cause.

    • ??? There's an obvious trail of money from Russia and Iran that influences current world events. Which is why there's no outrage over Iran murdering tens of thousands of protestors.

      I'm on the side of the Iranian protestors, not the murderous Islamic regime and terrorists, nor their murderous Russian allies.

      What's vile is not being opposed to the murder of 36000 people.

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    • Every political group hates every other one. Every time "anti-hate" groups come to power there is a purge often followed by genocide. Singling out one specific emotion is irrational.

      If Palestine had full US backing they would push Israelis in to the ocean and claiming otherwise is dishonest. UAE is the largest backer of Palestine, they have no qualms backing genocide in Sudan. So it's just as reasonable to claim jihadism has no respect for property or for life.

      This isn't whataboutism, if this money wasn't flowing you wouldn't hear about it.