Comment by kalterdev

14 days ago

“A country that violates the rights of its own citizens, will not respect the rights of its neighbors.”

That’s from my readings of philosophy.

But yeah, I do recognize the same sentiment as you found. I think philosophy itself is an answer: most philosophies explicitly champion dictatorships, under whitewashed terms. Ever heard something like “society is a big organ transcending individual needs”? We got it from Hegel.

>most philosophies explicitly champion dictatorships

I don't understand how you could make this claim.

"society is a big organ transcending individual needs”?"

How does this statement by Hegel champion dictatorships?

  • > I don't understand how you could make this claim.

    After studying Plato, Hegel, Marx, Rousseau, fascist ideologies, Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill. This list is by no means exhaustive, just a few majors from the top of my head.

    Sure, they didn’t just say “shoot people for power.” That’s a very shallow modern view. Instead, they champion extreme forms of altruism and its only logical expression: statism, which holds that man’s life and work belong to the state, to society, to the group, the race, the nation, the economic class.

    > How does this statement by Hegel champion dictatorships?

    The statement alone surely doesn’t. His philosophy does. For him, state is a sacred authority that transcends individual will.

    • >For him, state is a sacred authority that transcends individual will.

      State authority exists in democracys therefore that's not an argument for dictatorships

      >they champion extreme forms of altruism and its only logical expression: statism

      Why is statism the only logical expression of extreme altruism? Jesus Christ was the ultimate altruist and is not a state. I can dedicate my life to only helping others over myself as an individual .

      You're arguments and example are extremely poor because you showing evidence related to governments and states but your original claim was to one specific type of government, a dictatorship.

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