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Comment by kalterdev

2 days ago

“A country that violates the rights of its own citizens, will not respect the rights of its neighbors.”

That’s from my readings of philosophy.

But yeah, I do recognize the same sentiment as you found. I think philosophy itself is an answer: most philosophies explicitly champion dictatorships, under whitewashed terms. Ever heard something like “society is a big organ transcending individual needs”? We got it from Hegel.

>most philosophies explicitly champion dictatorships

I don't understand how you could make this claim.

"society is a big organ transcending individual needs”?"

How does this statement by Hegel champion dictatorships?

  • > I don't understand how you could make this claim.

    After studying Plato, Hegel, Marx, Rousseau, fascist ideologies, Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill. This list is by no means exhaustive, just a few majors from the top of my head.

    Sure, they didn’t just say “shoot people for power.” That’s a very shallow modern view. Instead, they champion extreme forms of altruism and its only logical expression: statism, which holds that man’s life and work belong to the state, to society, to the group, the race, the nation, the economic class.

    > How does this statement by Hegel champion dictatorships?

    The statement alone surely doesn’t. His philosophy does. For him, state is a sacred authority that transcends individual will.

    • >For him, state is a sacred authority that transcends individual will.

      State authority exists in democracys therefore that's not an argument for dictatorships

      >they champion extreme forms of altruism and its only logical expression: statism

      Why is statism the only logical expression of extreme altruism? Jesus Christ was the ultimate altruist and is not a state. I can dedicate my life to only helping others over myself as an individual .

      You're arguments and example are extremely poor because you showing evidence related to governments and states but your original claim was to one specific type of government, a dictatorship.

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