Comment by timpera

1 day ago

W11 is the best OS I've ever used, but everyone seems to hate it because Microsoft is so adamant in destroying its reputation by pushing Copilot and bugs instead of focusing on reliability. It's a shame.

Genuinely curious—what parts of Windows 11 do you like? I can’t find a single redeeming quality compared to W10, but admittedly I daily drive arch + macOS and only occasionally use my windows machine.

  • The multitasking is awesome (especially window and monitor management, it's a huge improvement over W10), everything is snappy, the ARM64 battery life (especially in standby) is Macbook-like, I never have issues with USB-C docks and monitors (unlike Fedora where I always have to tinker with the terminal at some point), and the Windows version of Microsoft Excel is still unmatched.

    There have also been great updates to PowerToys recently that I wish were easily available on other systems, but that's not a W11 specific thing.

    Finally, I really like the UI (but that's obviously subjective! and if you really care about customization, Linux clearly is the best pick for you).

    • I don't think you ever tried using something truly snappy and responsive, this statement couldn't be farther from the truth.

    • Standby is broken since the push from S3 to s2idle, this was a wintel move. On windows my laptop would die after a day until I finally forced standard S3 behaviour. After the switch back to S3 it lasts a week again and the resume time difference is negligible.

      My Lenovo dock ethernet has gone from not working on Linux and being fine on windows to the other way around.

      I do not share your enthusiasm. And since dumped windows entirely after the latest update. Last time I installed windows it took me longer to disable all adds and spyware than to actually install it, another reason for switching.

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  • If not for being forced off, most people would never have left windows xp… many medical practices and industrial facilities still are in it.

  • The Start menu now allows me to do what I have been doing since, like, XP, using shellinks and folders in the taskbar: Sort the Program icons in categories (like "Coding", "Sys", "Tweak", "Web"), to find them easier. This is not totally buggy any more (On Windows 10 the start menu became unusable at some point).

    In the taskbar I only have the most used icons. And the opened program instances are separated from the icons. That was doable on Win 10 and I think Win 7 too, using 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, which is now dysfunct. But the same author has created Windhawk, which does the same plus some other cool things.

    The Explorer is useless as ever. I am still using Total Commander with its filter-as-you-type, rename tool and button bars.

    What I still miss is a tool like Timeshift on Linux Mint.

    • For me, the start menu is often just blank, or the color is somehow completely off, if it's not showing "web search" result full of ads.

  • * notepad with multi tab (but without copilot!) * New screenshot/screen recording tool * Windows terminal

    If I can get all these on Windows 10, that would be wonderful.

  • Well Windows 11 is much better than Windows 10 on ARM devices.

    Otherwise off the top of my head I don’t find Win11 much better or worse than Win10.

  • It seems like partially moving an app from one monitor to another is improved. Previously, this operation was quite laggy as Win10 must have been doing some involved calculations balancing the DPI between different resolutions.

  • It just works.

    I can't point to a single thing that Windows 11 does particularly well.

    With my Mac mini M2 Pro, there's just too many bugs. It needs an annoying turn-off-turn-on workaround for it to even output to the second monitor. The liquid glass update initially made things even less stable.

    Linux I swore off years ago, no distro ever survived either their system updates or my dissatisfaction after a year or so.

    So here I am using Windows 11, and thanks to the more powerful hardware, it's pretty fast and smooth, outputting at 240 Hz.

    The Xbox app is bad and I don't like the Microsoft store, but other than that I have no major complaints.

    • Yes you've nailed it exactly. It sucks the least out of all options. It blunders the least. With Linux I would run into issues more frequently with things that worked "out of the box" (like display drivers) so I just switched back

Interesting - my annoyance with W11 is nothing to do with AI or CoPilot (or "Privacy", "Phoning home", the usual crap MS haters talk about), it's due to stuff like Windows Explorer getting seriously worse.

If it were the best, I'd be able to drag a file onto a taskbar icon to do something with it, like I could with every other version of Windows ever (and Mac, and Linux).

But it's reliability is bad? It doesn't crash as often as previous versions of windows sure, but instead ends up in various inoperable states that aren't fixed without restarting, which isn't really any better.

  • Forkbombing into resource exhaustion aside, W11 is the only system that left me unable to as much as log in

  • I don't recall either a crash or a need to restart Windows 11 in the last years.

    Except maybe when I was trying to use the XMP profile of my memory. It works now, maybe a BIOS update improved that.

What other operating systems have you used?

  • Dual boot with Fedora on my laptop, and my desktop at home is a Mac mini M4. I really like Fedora, it's my Linux distro of choice, but the experience is not as nice as on W11 in my opinion.