Comment by mystraline

10 hours ago

Thats easy.

Check out library genesis, Anna's archive, and scihub for content.

Piracy isnt theft if buying isnt ownership.

Ironic those doing the most for making information open and accessible are the criminals.

I’m genuinely curious how you feel about LLMs being trained on pirated material. Not being snarky here.

Your comment reflects the old “information wants to be free” ideals that used to dominate places like HN, Slashdot, and Reddit. But since LLMs arrived, a lot of the loudest voices here argue the opposite position when it comes to training data.

I’ve been trying to understand whether people have actually changed their views, or whether it’s mostly a shift in who is speaking up now.

  • why would that change anything? copyright is still a tax on the whole of society for the benefit of rich people and corporations. it opposes innovation, evolution and progress

    maybe a short copyright would be fine (10 year fixed?) but copyright as-is seems indefensible to me

  • Personally, I'd like for copyright to be abolished, and then for LLM training to be made illegal for reasons entirely unrelated to copyright.

None of these does full text search.