Comment by cmrdporcupine

7 hours ago

"While some other products have built out great UIs for humans to review code in an AI-assisted paradigm, we have chosen to build for what we consider to be an inevitable future - one where code validation requires vanishingly little human participation."

Ok good, now I know not to bother reading through any of their marketing literature, because while the product at first interested me, now I know it's exactly not what I want for my team.

The actual "bubble" we have right now is a situation where people can produce and publish code they don't understand, and where engineers working on a system no longer are forced to reckon with and learn the intricacies of their system, and even senior engineers don't gain literacy into the very thing they're working on, and so are somewhat powerless to assess quality and deal with crisis when it hits.

The agentic coding tools and review tools I want my team (and myself) to have access to are ones that ones that force an explicit knowledge interview & acquisition process during authoring and involve the engineer more intricately in the whole flow.

What we got instead with claude code & friends is a thing way too eager to take over the whole thing. And while it can produce some good results it doesn't produce understandable systems.

To be clear, it's been a long time since writing code has been the hard part of the job? in many many domains. The hard part is systems & architecture and while these tools can help with that, there's nothing more potentially terrifying pthan a team full of people who have agentically produced a codebase that they cannot holistically understand the nuances of.

So, yeah, I want review tools for that scenario. Since these people have marketed themselves off the table... what is out there?

Yep. We see this future and are working on exactly what you're talking about (Graphite)

  • You just completely contradicted yourself then.

    • Not sure how? Meant this:

      > The agentic coding tools and review tools I want my team (and myself) to have access to are ones that ones that force an explicit knowledge interview & acquisition process during authoring and involve the engineer more intricately in the whole flow.

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