Comment by Reubend
12 days ago
I've read several people say that Kimi K2 has a better "emotional intelligence" than other models. I'll be interested to see whether K2.5 continues or even improves on that.
12 days ago
I've read several people say that Kimi K2 has a better "emotional intelligence" than other models. I'll be interested to see whether K2.5 continues or even improves on that.
I love the Kimi response style. It's much more concise, without all the unnecessary "great question!"s and other annoying AI stuff
Yup, I experience the same. I don't know what they do to achieve this but it gives them this edge, really curious to learn more about what makes it so good at it.
A lot of people point to the Muon optimizer that Moonshot (the creators of Kimi) pioneered. Compared to the standard optimizer AdamW, Muon amplifies low-magnitude gradient directions which makes the model learn faster (and maybe gives Kimi its unique qualities).
Muon paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.16982
Wow! Thank you
yes, though this is highly subjective - it 'feels' like that to me as well (comapred to Gemini 3, GPT 5.2, Opus 4.5).
I'll test it out on mafia-arena.com once it is available on Open Router