Comment by sejje
13 days ago
If it's not a lawful order, you fight that in court. It's almost a free pass to get out of whatever you did.
But what she was given was a lawful order. That's the one I'm talking about.
I'm not a trump voter.
13 days ago
If it's not a lawful order, you fight that in court. It's almost a free pass to get out of whatever you did.
But what she was given was a lawful order. That's the one I'm talking about.
I'm not a trump voter.
How did you determine "what she was given was a lawful order" without a trial?
Because I have at least a bare minimum understanding of what a lawful command is.
Law enforcement can order you out of your vehicle, and you must comply.
ICE aren’t law enforcement and can’t legally effect traffic stops. Their orders to Good were not lawful as they had no PC related to immigration violations.
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Can you show me how specifically you fight it in court when the person abusing you is a federal officer? Bivens is basically dead.
Well, you can see the alternative. Get shot in the street and get a lot of twitter posts.
If the claim is that you can fight it in court then I want to know how you'd do that. Because from where I sit there are mountains of procedural barriers to actually doing this. A lot of people assume that you can just get some remedy in court, but this is often not true.
When an ICE agent shot and killed a kid their Bivens claim was still denied.
"Just go to court to solve it is not serious.
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