Comment by surgical_fire

1 month ago

That may be an intention, but the deal, as it is, does not cover mobility.

From the BBC article:

> Delhi and Brussels have also agreed on a mobility framework that eases restrictions for professionals to travel between India and the EU in the short term.

The Mobility Work is separate from the deal.

And you know what? Good that it includes it.

One of the major strengths of the US, one that I see as amazing that they are throwing away, is that they were always very capable to attract talent from abroad.

Having more skilled people around is never a bad thing. Only if you believe in a zero-sum economy.

More trade and more talented people generally result in economic growth and technological progress.

Recruitment of talent from India is complicated. To be precise, sifting for actual talent in the sea of mediocre nephews of VIPs is complicated. You can't even rely on actual identity of the person who is sitting in front of the camera, it can well be someone who was hired to impersonate them. Low trust societies tend to operate like that.

  • That's rich coming from someone in Czechia. Indian tech salaries [0] are comparable to Italian [1] and Romanian salaries [2].

    We deal with the same problems in Czechia, Poland, Romania, and India when paying at the lower end of the spectrum.

    A Czech, Pole, Romanian, and Indian are all equally commodifiable to me as an American.

    Either way you guys are taking American jobs, which represent the majority of tech jobs. And it's ironic that you sound the same as the Brits who railed about Polish, Romanian, and Czech immigrants before Brexit.

    Anyhow, it doesn't matter. India's working with Czechia to lobby against CBAM, Agrofert has JVs with Indian SoEs, and India is one of the only non-CEE markets where Skoda has PMF so everyone who matters in Czechia will fall behind the deal.

    [0] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/india

    [1] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/italy

    [2] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/romania

    • I am sure you do. Czechs aren't particularly honest people on average (why should I pretend otherwise? Mine is a medium-trust society at best, no Denmark or Iceland), and without the necessary cultural knowledge you will struggle to spot the red flags that the locals can spot easily.

      Maybe the whole idea of just easily cherrypicking talent from very distant nations with very different cultures is less workable than naive people think?

      Edit: you edited your response, I will add something to mine.

      In capitalism, jobs are commodity. Business really only cares about efficiency, not nationalist sensitivities. For every "American" job taken, there is an "American" boss who gives it away, but that is the point: the boss does not feel any patriotic duty to keep jobs onshore. He is beholden to the bottom line of his business.

      Edit 2: (this will be a long war of edits). Where did I "rail" against anything? Are you having some stereotype in your head and simply decided that I am a good fit?

      I literally wrote that fishing for actual talent in India from the outside is hard. Not desirable or undesirable, but hard. That is the result of actual experiences of people around me. I didn't say even a single word about whether it should be done or not.

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