Comment by ardme

5 hours ago

I have read the Obama era numbers are inflated because they counted turn aways at the border.

It’s also a little interesting that Obama was able to be against illegal immigration without a ton of pushback. Why was that?

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throw0101a  1 hour ago

> It’s also a little interesting that Obama was able to be against illegal immigration without a ton of pushback. Why was that?

Maybe because under Obama agents didn't go around smashing windows:

* https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/17/ice-detentio...

Note: the above person was an asylum seeker, so following the official process (AFAICT).

Or under Obama they didn't pull away people who were in line to take the Oath of Allegiance:

* https://people.com/immigrants-approved-for-citizenship-pulle...

Or take US citizens out of their homes, in their underwear, in the middle of winter:

* https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/a-u-s-citizen-says-ice-f...

Perhaps under Obama due process was followed, or not going after / grabbing people randomly based on the color of their skin:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop

JumpCrisscross  5 hours ago

> interesting that Obama was able to be against illegal immigration without a ton of pushback. Why was that?

He got tons of pushback from the left. He was just able to weather his party’s fringe in ways Republicans have not.

exo762  5 hours ago

For the same reason Nixon was able to establish OSHA without a ton of pushback.

gedy  5 hours ago

Team sports basically. And when you point out double standards, you got slammed as some "both sides" guy from the other team pretending to be a centrist.

  • hypeatei  5 hours ago

    This is a delusional take. For starters, there was criticism from lefties against Obama. Second, Obama didn't use ICE as a secret police force and send them into his political opponents' cities to punish them for wrongthink. You cannot tell me with a straightface that ICE in their current capacity is "just enforcing immigration laws"