Comment by isodev

6 hours ago

> Just like people

I understand that having model related vocabulary borrow similar words we use to describe human brains and cognition gets confusing. We are not the same, we don’t “learn” the same we certainly don’t use the knowledge we posses in the same way.

The major difference between an LLM and a human is that as a human, I can look at your examples (which sound solid at first glance) and choose to truly “reason” about them in a way that allows me to judge if they’re correct or even applicable.

how’s your reasoning different from LLM reasoning?

  • What humans are known to do, and apparently there is no limit to what they won't, is anthropomorphizing. I think there's not been a single one of these discussions where someone inevitably says LLM's don't do X as well as a human and someone interjects in cult-like fashion.

Obviously. You are not exactly the same as your nearest neighbor but have similar observable traits to outside observers.

But since you end up trying to differentiate yourself from an LLM in vague, conceptual qualifiers, not empirical differences, what it means to "reason" ...I am left uncertain what you mean at all.

An LLM can reject false assertions and generate false positives just like a human.

Within a culture too individual people become pretty copy paste distillations of their generations customs. As a social creature you aren't that different. Really all that sets you apart from other people or a computer is a unique meat suit.

Unfortunately for your meat suit most people don't care it exists and will carry on with their lives never noticing it.

While LLMs have massive valuations right now. Pretty sure the public has spoken when it comes to the differences you fail to illustrate actually mattering.

  • > While LLMs have massive valuations right now. Pretty sure the public has spoken when it comes to the differences you fail to illustrate actually mattering.

    Are you seriously using market valuation as an indicator of worth?

    • Sure. We do it all the time in our society while projecting rhetorically we are better than that. Capitalism is not honorific obligationism.

      When Americans feel we are all worth public healthcare I will feel Americans wholeheartedly care about each other's existence. Until then our social culture is view one another as unworthy useless meat suits.

      Done ignoring my own eyes and ears. Most Americans, including many many educated ones, are low skilled, manual labor exploiting trash, codependent on kids in sweatshops so we're free to hype memes about our dumb office jobs market value or we don't get healthcare.

      So yeah who is given privileges is very much coupled to market value in this shit hole country. Clutch pearls over it

  • I think I've read that book... but I distinctly remember the plot was a lot more engaging.