Comment by lapcat

9 days ago

> All of a sudden, you are beset with 60-second hangs.

No, that's not how it works. Frankly, I'm astonished to see this claim here.

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pixl97  9 days ago

The problem with this is some apps do incredibly stupid things. Now I'm not saying the operating system itself, but I had some ide screw off and go into long pause mode when my laptop was in airplane mode.

  • lapcat  9 days ago

    I'm sure there are stupid apps out there, but "the standard TCP timeout" was a misdiagnosis of the problem.

ChrisMarshallNY  9 days ago

Depends.

I have a couple of apps on my computer that do exactly that.

I am looking forward to learning how it does work...

  • lapcat  9 days ago

    > I am looking forward to learning how it does work...

    It's basic sockets. If you call connect() when the internet is disabled, the errno is ENETUNREACH.

    The higher-level API are built on sockets. If any apps are misbehaving, they're simply badly coded.

    • ChrisMarshallNY  9 days ago

      > It's basic sockets.

      Yup. I've done a bit of that stuff, in my time.

      > If any apps are misbehaving, they're simply badly coded.

      Plenty of that stuff, going around.

      Might want to ease back on the "instant insult" thing. Not a good look.

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  • direwolf20  9 days ago

    You're not thinking like a systemd developer. The right thing to do is to ignore all anecdotes and direct evidence that a problem exists. I am talking about systemd renaming your network interfaces because you added or removed hardware.

    • ElectricalUnion  9 days ago

      systemd should add and remove interfaces connected in the exact same hardware path with the same name they had before.

      Default literally insane legacy behaviour is just vomiting eth${RAND} where RAND depends on racing conditions.

      My educated guess is that people that insist on using the legacy eth${RAND} never had a surprise random firewall and routing rules suddenly apply to different interfaces at a inconvenient time, making production halt and catch on fire, yet.

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