Comment by s_dev

19 hours ago

https://european-alternatives.eu/

Based on your comment you probably aren't gonna discuss in good faith but move the goalposts each time.

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input_sh  19 hours ago

Yeah this is just circular reasoning. You don't go from zero to AWS the same way AWS didn't go from zero to what it is today. They started with a few basic features and built up from there. There are plenty of EU alternatives that have those same basic features AWS had a while ago, but until it makes economic sense to replicate all of it, no EU company is going to do so.

Whether you can switch from AWS to an EU alternative depends solely on how deep down the rabbit hole you are. If you're just looking for basics to host your stuff, you can. If you want to never have to touch Linux but to rely solely on proprietary abstractions on top of Linux, you can't.

esskay  19 hours ago

What makes you think I'll move the goalpost - the original question was pretty clear; EU cloud providers who offer services like AWS does.

What you've linked to is a broad scope site listing a multitude of EU based products and services, making it look like you cant even list ONE let alone a few .

Don't pull the 'moving the goalpost' nonsense, the original post you replied to made it very clear they were talking about an AWS comparison, and a cursory glance at the 'cloud providers' section of that site shows a bunch of EU hosting providers offering general VPS hosting, which isn't remotely close to being the same kind of thing.

  • dijit  19 hours ago

    “you offer managed databases, but RDS supports x”.

    I can see it coming already, no point in extending this thread

    • esskay  16 hours ago

      Ok let me try this, because I can assure you my intent is not to throw some sort of "gotcha" in here. I'm thinking about this purely from my own personal usecase, and right now as far as I'm aware theres no AWS alternative in the EU that can do all this for me. Nothing I am using here relies on some sort of obscure feature of each service at all.

      My usecase is:

      - MySQL (using Aurora but really dont need to), hands off like it is on RDS so yeah a managed service would be preferred.

      - 2x VM instances with internal networking and an EFS drive connecting the two (The efs drive is critical for a ton of applications)

      - Load balancer

      - S3 + Cloudfront for CDN

      And a few more bits I appreciate are very niche to my usecase but would be nice to keep under the same vpc:

      - SQS queue workers (can switch to something redis based if needed)

      - SES mail service (again can switch to another 3rd party as i doubt many people offer this)

      - Lambda for some app specific background processing

      Hopefully this kinda explains my position. Yes, I can split a lot of this out into multiple individual providers who specialise in just that one thing. And perhaps that's the way to go. But I dont think you can deny it's a heck of a lot more convenient to have all of it in one place.

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