Comment by bjackman

> not cheaper or better

Yeah. The EuroCloud will always be dramatically more expensive and much much worse. Anyone who's claiming otherwise is living a fantasy. The only argument that makes sense is "but it's worth it".

(One detail: it will be much worse at the margins where current clouds actually compete. But actually I suspect only a small number of our customers actually exist at that margin. I think a lot of people are just massively overpaying for their cloud platform and so they might be fine with a EuroCloud anyway. This is why you hear stories today like "we switched to Hetzner, halved our bill, and it works exactly as well as the AWS products we used to use).

> And then some services thrown in to offer some S3 like buckets and that's it. The rest has to be built by the beneficiaries.

Ditto, a fully featured EuroCloud is not gonna happen. Again, it has to be worth this cost.

> Brand names like NetApp, HP, Dell, Lenovo, 3Par, IBM and the list goes on.

This is the only part where I disagree. I think it's OK if the EuroCloud is built out of US hardware (like how the AmeriCloud is very far from free of Chinese hardware). Obviously presents a significant risk re supply chain security but still, the _really_ important thing is actually sovereign operations. The most important thing is who has the keys to the DC.