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Comment by throw20251220

24 days ago

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No, because the noise of people just living life is not comparable to cigarette smoke. You can also use earplugs if you’re that sensitive to regular noises of people living around you. That kind of sensitivity is not normal though.

I can’t stop cigarette smoke from seeping in to everything in my home if I leave the windows open. Also, smoking is not a necessary part of life. You can’t live silently.

It’s not the same.

No, it doesn’t work that way.

The sound of children playing is a normal part of human life, inseparable in fact from life.

The smell of cigarette smoke is neither.

  • Only because you're defining one as normal and the other as abnormal.

    • It is possible for the human species to exist without cigarette smoke, and doubtless for at least part of our history it did not exist.

      It is not possible for the human species (or any form of mortal biological life) to exist without children.

      If you want to try to define the latter observation of reality as “abnormal”, fill your boots.

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    • I remember when I was young and edgy, and thought dunking on parents was simply sharing hard truths.

      Boy am I glad I grew out of that mindset.

If you smoke you might not realise just how absolutely awful it smells and how it sticks to material. Sounds of children don’t.

  • I don't know man. I once heard the sound of children laughing and having fun, and now I've got kids of my own.

  • So does poor hygiene, smelly dog, a strong perfume you like but maybe not everyone, a newborn poop smell. And for all of those we have washing machines.

    • If your neighbours have so many kids that the newborn poop smell is filling your home if you open the window for a while and making your curtains and clothes stink of it because it’s that strong you are well within your rights to complain.

      Do you smoke? These comparisons are quite odd unless you don’t realise just how strong the smell is.

Yes, that is the same because second degree kid noises also cause cancer.

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    •   A full range of scientific evidence, extending from the molecular level to whole populations, supports the conclusion that secondhand smoke causes disease. The scope of this evidence is enormous, and encompasses not only the literature on secondhand smoke but also relevant findings on active smoking and on the toxicity of individual tobacco smoke components.
      

      * The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke: A Report of the Surgeon General. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK44321/

      356 links to supporting studies and works

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Society needs kids and has a collective responsibility to raise them. It has no such obligation to cigarette smoke.

  • You want to have children? Cool. Made a mistake? Deal with it. Don’t make it sound like you are doing others a favour by having children though. “The society” will be fine without them. There are plenty out there nobody cares about.

You’re both correct, 100%. Seriously.

  • Yeah, it’s simply pissing me off that no person noticed the only abnormal behaviour here is the dude labelling the whole category of human beings as “awful” without trying to understand their motives. Selfish and entitled on a boss level.

    Are those who smoke on a top floor balcony also awful? Are those who smoke on a balcony of a multi-storey building they live alone in also awful people?