Comment by nkrisc
24 days ago
People who smoke on the balconies of multi-unit buildings are awful people. It’d be a beautiful day but I can’t keep my windows open because there’s always somebody smoking to make my unit smell disgusting if I just want to enjoy a cool breeze going through.
Thank goodness smoking is becoming rarer here and is no banned pretty much everywhere indoors and near entrances.
I don’t mind if people have a vice (I’ve got mine) but keep me out of it.
Smoking tobacco got rarer here, but smoking marijuana has gotten much more common. I don't know if it's just that I grew up with tobacco, but the skunk-like smell of marijuana bothers me a lot more.
I didn’t even mention tobacco specifically because it’s the same either way.
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Inhaling any particulate seems like a pretty bad idea. I knew a Jamaican guy who thought people were silly for smoking it and said tea was the best. I have no opinion, not my vice of choice.
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I'm agnostic as to the harms vs. benefits of smoking marijuana, it's the smell that bothers me. I personally love the smell of frankincense, but I would understand if my neighbors objected to me burning it regularly.
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> Since they smoke on the balcony, rather than near roommates/family, many are likely more mindful and pleasant to coexist with than what you displayed.
They’re more pleasant to coexist with because they let their smoke drift into my home instead of their own? What? They’re just externalizing the negatives of their own vice.
Yeah, it's a bit worrying that some people don't seem to understand that just because you enjoy smoking, doesn't mean the rest of the units downstream of you want to breath it in too.
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You haven't mentioned that they:
a) are aware that their smoke isn't dispersed enough by the breeze / open space to be unnoticeable.
b) know there is someone close enough who isn't like them and other smokers, and is really bothered by the smoke.
They do, however, go smoke on their balconies since they were made aware smoking inside is bad for their roommates/family.
So, many of them are more likely than not reasonable people. They _could be_. While you _proved_ that you aren't, by not communicating it (or at least not mentioning it as if it isn't the most important reason why they are "awful people"), just judging them and holding a grudge.
In this very comment you again showed that you don't care enough to understand others who you might disagree with, because I am just rephrasing what I already wrote, since you replied like I didn't.
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> you just declare them awful people just because smoking is part of their lives
They're awful people because they are drug addicts who insist on making their unbearable smoke part of our lives too.
> They're awful people because they are drug addicts
what the hell man, that is an awful thing to say, have some compassion
> our lives
if "our" is to mean people with such an awful opinion about addiction, then I wish it on you
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I didn't "choose" to live in a multi-unit apartment, I live in Hong Kong - there is no other option.
"Just leave them!" Yeah. Ok.
Try empathy, it's free.
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No, because the noise of people just living life is not comparable to cigarette smoke. You can also use earplugs if you’re that sensitive to regular noises of people living around you. That kind of sensitivity is not normal though.
I can’t stop cigarette smoke from seeping in to everything in my home if I leave the windows open. Also, smoking is not a necessary part of life. You can’t live silently.
It’s not the same.
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No, it doesn’t work that way.
The sound of children playing is a normal part of human life, inseparable in fact from life.
The smell of cigarette smoke is neither.
Only because you're defining one as normal and the other as abnormal.
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If you smoke you might not realise just how absolutely awful it smells and how it sticks to material. Sounds of children don’t.
I don't know man. I once heard the sound of children laughing and having fun, and now I've got kids of my own.
So does poor hygiene, smelly dog, a strong perfume you like but maybe not everyone, a newborn poop smell. And for all of those we have washing machines.
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Yes, that is the same because second degree kid noises also cause cancer.
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Society needs kids and has a collective responsibility to raise them. It has no such obligation to cigarette smoke.
You want to have children? Cool. Made a mistake? Deal with it. Don’t make it sound like you are doing others a favour by having children though. “The society” will be fine without them. There are plenty out there nobody cares about.
Did we find the smoker?
The correct question is “have you found a smoker who smokes on a balcony”.
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You’re both correct, 100%. Seriously.
Yeah, it’s simply pissing me off that no person noticed the only abnormal behaviour here is the dude labelling the whole category of human beings as “awful” without trying to understand their motives. Selfish and entitled on a boss level.
Are those who smoke on a top floor balcony also awful? Are those who smoke on a balcony of a multi-storey building they live alone in also awful people?
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No, doesn’t work. Nice try though.
You must be a very congenial neighbor.
It makes me a little sad to see a lot of peoples comments here about how they're annoyed by xyz thing someone does that doesn't stop at there fence line or unit. So many are being downvoted.
XYZ thing? ... No it's not XYZ thing. It's smoke which directly impacts the health of my family and the enjoyment of our home.
Want to cancer yourself and stink to high heaven? Absolutely 100% fine by me.
Just don't drag anyone else into it.
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