Comment by everfrustrated

6 hours ago

How is Azure still having faults that affect multiple regions? Clearly their region definition is bollocks.

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ragall  4 hours ago

All 3 hyperscalers have vulnerabilities in their control planes: they're either single point of failure like AWS with us-east-1, or global meaning that a faulty release can take it down entirely; and take AZ resilience to mean that existing compute will continue to work as before, but allocation of new resources might fail in multi-AZ or multi-region ways.

It means that any service designed to survive a control plane outage must statically allocate its compute resources and have enough slack that it never relies on auto scaling. True for AWS/GCP/Azure.

  • tbrownaw  4 hours ago

    > It means that any service designed to survive a control plane outage must statically allocate its compute resources and have enough slack that it never relies on auto scaling. True for AWS/GCP/Azure.

    That sounds oddly similar to owning hardware.

    • ragall  3 hours ago

      In a way. It means that you can get new capacity most often, but the transition windows where a service gets resized (or mutated in general) has to be minimised and carefully controlled by ops.

  • everfrustrated  3 hours ago

    This outage talks about what appears to be a VM control plane failure (it mentions stop not working) across multiple regions.

    AWS has never had this type of outage in 20 years. Yet Azure constantly had them.

    This is a total failure of engineering and has nothing to do with capacity. Azure is a joke of a cloud.