Comment by globular-toast

5 hours ago

> I do miss my natural gas on-demand water heater from when I lived in the states though.

Isn't that what we call a combi boiler in the UK (and Europe?) I've recently moved from having a big hot water cylinder to a combi. The space saving is nice, but there are downsides.

Waiting for the hot water to come through is annoying and I'm often just wasting cold water waiting for it to come through hot. There is a "pre-heat" feature which would be nice, but then it would keep it warm 24 hours a day which is ridiculous. Maybe some better boilers can time the pre-heat. That would probably be close to perfect.

The other downside is it can only really supply one tap with hot water. So if someone is having a shower and someone else runs a hot tap it can be unpleasant. Requires some coordination between householders.

All in all I would definitely prefer a cylinder if I could afford the space it takes. Modern cylinders are incredibly efficient. I once turned the heating off for a week while away on holiday and when I came back the water from the cylinder was still tepid.

> There is a "pre-heat" feature which would be nice, but then it would keep it warm 24 hours a day which is ridiculous. Maybe some better boilers can time the pre-heat.

Yeah one of my colleagues has a preheat which can be triggered manually and via automation. They also have a preheat loop which cycles hot water through the entire piping as the boiler is on an edge, so it takes ages for hot water to reach the far bathroom.