Comment by realusername
15 hours ago
Personally I feel that the excessive duration of copyright just weakens authors arguments against AI.
If even WWII-era documents are still under copyright, building a model respecting that would be impossible.
15 hours ago
Personally I feel that the excessive duration of copyright just weakens authors arguments against AI.
If even WWII-era documents are still under copyright, building a model respecting that would be impossible.
I would very much like to see us return to something resembling the original copyright terms. Like: Manually file for 22 years of enforcement. Then manually file 20 years later for 22 more.
You could create some great masterpiece at 18 and live off of it until you are 62 and starting to take social security payments.
> If even WWII-era documents are still under copyright, building a model respecting that would be impossible.
"We can't do this legally, so we should be allowed to ignore the law."
If you can't build a model while respecting licenses, don't build a model.
I don't want copyright to exist, at any duration, and I certainly think it should be much shorter than it is. However, as long as it exists, AI should not get any exception to it; such an exception inherently privileges massive entities over small entities or individuals.
If you can't do something which looks reasonable within the laws, it means that the laws have to change.
I don't see how building such a model of historical documents would impact authors (which most of them are dead anyways).
> If you can't do something which looks reasonable within the laws, it means that the laws have to change.
Then change the law. For everyone, consistently, not just massive AI companies. Until then, deal with it.
> I don't see how building such a model of historical documents would impact the authors
It impacts the authors of new documents, who do not get to copy those historical documents, while an AI competing with them gets to. If you want those historical documents to be freely available, make copyright stop applying to them. For everyone, not just massive AI companies.
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> Personally I feel that the excessive duration of copyright just weakens authors arguments against AI.
That excess exists precisely because of the industry’s clout. For decades, rightsholders successfully lobbied Congress to extend copyright term again and again. That process appears to have finally plateaued, which is why early Mickey Mouse has now entered the public domain.
And notably, since the rise of AI, the government has not been especially quick or eager to step in and defend rightsholders.