Comment by pdpi
6 hours ago
How does that mesh with all the safe harbour provisions we've depended on to make the modern internet, though?
6 hours ago
How does that mesh with all the safe harbour provisions we've depended on to make the modern internet, though?
Note that is a US law, not a French one.
Also, safe harbor doesn't apply because this is published under the @grok handle! It's being published by X under one of their brand names, it's absurd to argue that they're unaware or not consenting to its publication.
It's not like the world benefited from safe harbor laws that much. Why don't just amend them so that algorithms that run on server side and platforms that recommend things are not eligible.
If you are thinking about section 230 it only applies to user–generated content, so not server–side AI or timeline algorithms.
The safe harbor provisions largely protect X from the content that the users post (within reason). Suddenly Grok/X were actually producing the objectionable content. Users were making gross requests and then an LLM owned by X, using X servers and X code would generate the illegal material and then post it to the website. The entity responsible is no longer done user but instead the company itself.
Yes, and that was a very stupid product decision. They could have put the image generation into the post editor, shifting responsibility to the users.
I'd guess Elon is responsible for that product decision.
Before a USER did create content. So the user was / is liable. Now a LLM owned by a company does create content. So the company is liable.
I'm not trying to make excuses for Grok, but how exactly isn't the user creating the content? Grok doesn't have create images on its own volition, the user is still required to give it some input, therefore "creating" the content.
X is making it pretty clear that it is "Grok" posting those images and not the user. It is a separate posting that comes from an official account named "Grok". X has full control over what the official "Grok" account posts.
There is no functionality for the users to review and approve "Grok" responses to their tweets.
Until now, webserver had just been like a post service. Grok is more like a CNC late.
This might be an unpopular opinion but I always thought we might be better off without Web 2.0 where site owners aren’t held responsible for user content
If you’re hosting content, why shouldn’t you be responsible, because your business model is impossible if you’re held to account for what’s happening on your premises?
Without safe harbor, people might have to jump through the hoops of buying their own domain name, and hosting content themselves, would that be so bad?
Any app allowing any communication between two users would be illegal.
What about webmail, IM, or any other sort of web-hosted communication? Do you honestly think it would be better if Google were responsible for whatever content gets sent to a gmail address?
Messages are a little different than hosting public content but sure, a service provider should know its customers and stop doing business with any child sex traffickers planning parties over email.
I would prefer 10,000 service providers to one big one that gets to read all the plaintext communication of the entire planet.
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You know this site would not be possible without those protections, right?