Comment by 8note

4 hours ago

this is still forcing flock on everyone.

they could instead be limiting flock to private places.

> This idea that there's some kind of difference between me watching you in public and Flock watching you in public is, quite frankly, bogus.

if you followed me everywhere and took pictures of me everywhwre i went outside from my door in the morning to my door in the evening, id want to get a restraining order on you as a stalker. this is stalking

I agree, this is stalking.

But again, this is not what Flock is doing.

By this same logic, traffic cameras and CCTV surveillance are "stalking", which doesn't seem accurate?

  • The idea that a single CCTV feed is at all comparable to aggregatable Flock data is a deeply unserious position. I’m not clear why you think you can pretend that single cameras and a network of cameras are either similar or comparable, in this context? Or why traffic cameras aren’t essentially identical, if they’re used identically?

    I’d like to give the benefit of the doubt, but it feels very sea-liony and intentionally disingenuous.

    • I'm not positing the idea that a single CCTV feed is the same? Most places that run CCTVs run many, so there's already some element of scale. I mean, I literally said "traffic cameras", which are ubiquitous and often elements of sets numbering in the hundreds or even thousands, depending on the size of the jurisdiction.

      If you can't refrain from immediately strawmanning the argument, I would argue that you are the one with the "deeply unserious position".

      Have a little more rigor, please.